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Need education on hex codes,. and dowloading them onto a remote.
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OP | Post 16 made on Saturday August 10, 2013 at 23:08
steve kovacs
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Thank you. You are correct, I am well aware the URC RF 20 cannot download codes.
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Post 17 made on Saturday August 10, 2013 at 23:28
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On August 10, 2013 at 22:35, goldenzrule said...
He is not trying to import the hex codes directly to the RF20. He stated that he wants to import hex codes to another remote, and then learn those codes to the RF20 remotes that he has.

But the RF20 is all he has. And any remote that can have hex codes cut and pasted require dealer software. So until he signs up with URC, I don't see a solution
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Post 18 made on Saturday August 10, 2013 at 23:31
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On August 10, 2013 at 22:35, goldenzrule said...
He is not trying to import the hex codes directly to the RF20. He stated that he wants to import hex codes to another remote, and then learn those codes to the RF20 remotes that he has.

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OP | Post 19 made on Sunday August 11, 2013 at 00:24
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I plan on purchasing a remote that has the ability to download codes from a computer database of codes. A few questions...

1. How does a person get access to the database of codes? Must you purchase a remote from URC then they give you access to the codes?

2. What if you buy a used remote. How would you get access to these codes?

3. Can you download codes from other databases other than the manufacturer of the remote you are using?

4. I plan on only using the remote I purchase to download discrete codes to the remote I purchase then learn those codes into the URC RF 20 remotes I own. Based on this information any suggestions on the least expensive remote I can purchase to accomplish this.
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Post 20 made on Sunday August 11, 2013 at 01:04
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On August 11, 2013 at 00:24, steve kovacs said...
I plan on purchasing a remote that has the ability to download codes from a computer database of codes. A few questions...

Any of the brands of programmable remotes has THEIR OWN database that you can download and use. However, I was wrong when I said "you," as you must be a dealer for URC or for RTI to get their software and therefore access to their databases.

The best thing I've seen here so far is the Pronto idea. An original Pronto (TS1000, TSU2000) is GREAT at learning codes; software for it is free here in the files section; there are many sets of codes free here (but not recent ones); and the editor allows you to see and copy off hex codes. Whoever said you don't need hex codes is right. You just need a way to get the codes and teach them to your remote.

1. How does a person get access to the database of codes? Must you purchase a remote from URC then they give you access to the codes?

No. You have to be a dealer, that is, dedicate yourself to selling them. End users cannot get the software, thus not get into the database.

2. What if you buy a used remote. How would you get access to these codes?

You would not.

3. Can you download codes from other databases other than the manufacturer of the remote you are using?

Mostly not. But, for instance, the URC software allows you to convert a Pronto file into a URC file. This means you have to have the Pronto file to get it to a URC device, though you could just teach the file from the Pronto to your remote directly. So you don't need anything more than the Pronto.

I think you need to back up one step. You don't need to learn about hex codes, and downloading them, and all that jazz. You need to know how to get some codes into your remote. So please tell us what codes you want to get into your remote and we can attack your actual problem.

4. I plan on only using the remote I purchase to download discrete codes to the remote I purchase then learn those codes into the URC RF 20 remotes I own. Based on this information any suggestions on the least expensive remote I can purchase to accomplish this.

A used Pronto TS1000.

You've made this much more difficult than it has to be by coming to the conclusion of what you need to do, rather than asking with help as to how to do what you need to do.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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Post 21 made on Sunday August 11, 2013 at 02:27
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As has been explained several times, any remote that has the ability to edit hex codes (other than the pronto) require being a certified dealer to get the software.

And second, if you did get a remote that you can paste hex codes to, it would be rediculous to then learn codes to the rf20. Just use the better remote
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Post 22 made on Sunday August 11, 2013 at 03:52
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Steve,
RemoteCentral, and this forum particularly, tends to be inhabited by Custom Installers.  Most of them posting here are very good at what they do, which is designing, specifying, and installing audio/visual systems.  Most of them are not, however, very knowledgeable about inexpensive sources for IR signals or infrared IR signal protocols.

A Comcast or Atlas cable remote is capable of sending any IR signal that your RF20 is able to learn, and a fair number of signals that are too complicated for the RF20.  The Comcast remotes (assuming you don't already own one) can be bought new on eBay for $6 shipped.  Depending on the particular equipment you have, these remotes can be manually programmed by entering a 5 digit EFC for each discrete signal, or if your gear is less common, you can use a $20 USB interface cable and free open source software to make the remote send any signal.  You can convert Pronto Hex or use a specification such as NEC1 device 120.47, function 63 to prgram the remote.  Lots of people teach their URC remotes using this method.

If your equipment employs very unusual IR signals for which neither the IR protocol nor the discrete signals are known, you can buy instead a learning remote such as the RCA RCRP05B (<$20), and use the interface cable to download the unusual IR signals to your computer, decode them, and then systematically try other function numbers to find the discretes yourself.

Post a question (preferable including the equipement for which you want to add discretes) at hifi-remote.com and we'll get you going.
Post 23 made on Sunday August 11, 2013 at 11:22
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1: Buy Pronto Remote
[Link: ebay.com]

1000/2000/6000 all work with the readily available Pronto edit software found right here on Remote central. You do not have to be a dealer.

2: Hex codes. Pretty much all the hex codes you should need are right here on remote central. there is huge database of raw codes and larger download area full of pronto templates.

3. This forum [Link: remotecentral.com] here onremote central is probably better suited for your questions once you have 1 and 2 down.
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