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| Topic: | 4 Wire In Wall Speaker Wiring Convention This thread has 58 replies. Displaying posts 46 through 59. |
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| Post 46 made on Saturday March 23, 2013 at 13:10 |
tweeterguy Loyal Member |
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Right
Red +
Black -
Left
White +
Green -
There is a standard, jerberger quoted it on page 2, seems few took note. I want to throat punch someone when I see a system wired up Christmas style...electricians have no business wiring up speakers. The same electrician would also use type NM cable for a phone line given the opportunity...are you going to follow the "standard" of a guy like that?
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| Post 47 made on Saturday March 23, 2013 at 13:46 |
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Right=Red+/Blk- and Left=Wht+/Grn- This is the standard used by most current manufacturers I've encountered who use the color-coded flip-Phoenix style connectors.
Last edited by Mogul on March 24, 2013 23:01.
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| Post 48 made on Saturday March 23, 2013 at 14:16 |
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On March 23, 2013 at 13:10, tweeterguy said...
Right
Red +
Black -
Left
White +
Green -
There is a standard, jerberger quoted it on page 2, seems few took note. I want to throat punch someone when I see a system wired up Christmas style...electricians have no business wiring up speakers. The same electrician would also use type NM cable for a phone line given the opportunity...are you going to follow the "standard" of a guy like that? +1
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| Post 49 made on Saturday March 23, 2013 at 19:12 |
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On March 21, 2013 at 18:35, jberger said...
This is actually standardized in CEA/CEDIA 2030a so there IS an industry standard to follow and it's recognized by CEA for use in CE devices.
"4.3.2 Speaker Wire and Connector Color Codes
All speaker cable conductors should be color coded, or distinctively marked to ensure proper polarity.
Two conductor cables generally contain a red and a black insulated conductor. The red conductor
shall be used for the positive terminals and the black conductor shall be used for the negative
terminals. Four conductor-unpaired cables generally contain red, black, white, and green conductors.
Red and black shall be positive and negative respectively, for the right speaker in each zone. White
shall be used for positive and green shall be used for negative to connect the left speaker. Other
colors may be used, but all connections must be consistent.
Speaker terminals shall be color coded in accordance with the color-coding scheme in CEA-863-A.
Special considerations should be taken for active speakers; follow manufacturer‘s instructions. " Sorry bud, I missed it. Yeap, here it is; that's what I'll use. No point of reinventing the wheel, and arguing...well, unless it's Wesley's law. :-)
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| Post 50 made on Saturday March 23, 2013 at 21:08 |
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Speakers are wired in the low voltage realm, where black is negative. I also see the red and green scheme from phone guys all the time.
Red+/Black- (right channel) red is right...
white+/green- (left channel)
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| Post 51 made on Sunday March 24, 2013 at 09:01 |
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On March 23, 2013 at 13:10, tweeterguy said...
Right
Red +
Black -
Left
White +
Green -
There is a standard, jerberger quoted it on page 2, seems few took note. I want to throat punch someone when I see a system wired up Christmas style...electricians have no business wiring up speakers. The same electrician would also use type NM cable for a phone line given the opportunity...are you going to follow the "standard" of a guy like that? +1 been my standard for years
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| Post 52 made on Sunday March 24, 2013 at 09:25 |
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I can't believe there has been 4 pages to something so simple, but I've run across systems wired all kinds of ways.
red and white are the lighter colors=positive
black and green are the darker colors= negative
You wouldn't think it would take much common sense to figure that one out in a minute or two.
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| Post 53 made on Sunday March 24, 2013 at 09:29 |
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I worked with a guy several years ago that would often prewire surround sound with a 16/4 for the right front and rear and another 16/4 for the left front and rear. It was easier for him because of the joist layout. Drove me crazy.
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| Post 54 made on Sunday March 24, 2013 at 14:20 |
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Back in the late 80's we had no scheme, and since it was all seat of the pants, we started red+/green- and white+/black-. Still use it today.
It was mortronics (sp.) volume controls with Environmental Sound speakers, which we changed to niles and then speakercraft because we found out speakercraft was making niles and they were cheaper. Now it's Sonance or Speakercraft.
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| Post 55 made on Sunday March 24, 2013 at 18:09 |
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I don't understand what knucklehead decided to make 4 conductor cables with those colors. Why doesn't someone manufacture a cable with red & black / red-stripe & black stripe? They do it with category cable.
And yes, when I started out, because I was learning on my own, black+/white-
red+/green- made sense to me. But it was pointed out to me by my mentor that white "hot" was a telephony standard. So I decided to conform to the more standard practice of red/black, white/green. Fortunately I hadn't wired too many houses at that point.
As for left and right, I can't figure how it could possibly matter in distributed audio.
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| Post 56 made on Sunday March 24, 2013 at 18:52 |
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On March 24, 2013 at 18:09, GLS said...
As for left and right, I can't figure how it could possibly matter in distributed audio. Depending on the system, we sometimes wire 4 conductor in home theaters as well. We loop at one speaker and over to the second. If someone else comes to install equipment, having it wired "properly" makes it easy and quick.
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| Post 57 made on Sunday March 24, 2013 at 23:04 |
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Using black and green for positive gives makes the high freqs sound warmer...
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| Post 58 made on Monday March 25, 2013 at 02:02 |
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On March 24, 2013 at 09:29, goldenzrule said...
I worked with a guy several years ago that would often prewire surround sound with a 16/4 for the right front and rear and another 16/4 for the left front and rear. It was easier for him because of the joist layout. Drove me crazy. Either way it's easy. If one cable is for left and right, the Right is always Red. If wiring front and back, Rear is Red.
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| Post 59 made on Monday March 25, 2013 at 08:32 |
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On March 25, 2013 at 02:02, Tom Ciaramitaro said...
Either way it's easy. If one cable is for left and right, the Right is always Red. If wiring front and back, Rear is Red. It's easy if you tone it. Having it simply wires right on one and left on the other isn't clear for most. I knew he did this often so I knew to wire accordingly, not everyone did. The proper way would be to simply drill the few extra holes and wire according to the standard way. It looked messy on the equipment side as well as wires cross over each other in order to connect to the terminals.
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