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| Topic: | 4 Wire In Wall Speaker Wiring Convention This thread has 58 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 30. |
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| Post 16 made on Thursday March 21, 2013 at 17:19 |
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On March 21, 2013 at 17:17, 3PedalMINI said...
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Red & Green are always positive. I think of christmas colors when im having an off day and cant think clearly LOL! Nope, Red & White are positive
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| Post 17 made on Thursday March 21, 2013 at 17:25 |
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Red+/Black-
White+/Green-
This is by far the most common wire scheme you will see. Many manufactures have their speaker terminals, of their whole house audio systems, color coded as such.
There have been others however: many years ago (decades) CEDIA I think was trying to teach Red/Green White/Black at one point. And at least 1 or 2 manufactures color coded their product to that. I don't think they still do these days.
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| Post 18 made on Thursday March 21, 2013 at 17:30 |
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On March 21, 2013 at 17:19, Ernie Gilman said...
But I decided a dozen years ago to see if there was a standard, and CEDIA seemed like it might have its act together; I was wrong, but they had a standard. They used red and green for the right channel and black and white for the left channel. The grounds were the green and the black. I remembered this by the phrase "Christmas colors are right." Whether you pay attention to Christmas or not, that phrase won't warp your heathen soul, so you can use it with impunity. And once again you must remember that in the world of audio, black is negative. I'm jewish so I go with Red +/Black - and White +/Green - Those are chanukah colors right there
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| Post 19 made on Thursday March 21, 2013 at 18:14 |
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On March 21, 2013 at 15:20, Mac Burks (39) said...
Right Speaker = [Red +][Black -] (like the speaker terminals on most speakers)
Left Speaker = [White +][Green -]
If there is no obvious left or right speaker in a ceiling i make the "first" speaker red and black. The first speaker is where the home run lands and either continues on to the "last" speaker or gets spliced to the last speaker. No real reason to do it this way other than to have a standard practice. It lets me know where my splice point is. +5022
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| Post 20 made on Thursday March 21, 2013 at 18:23 |
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On March 21, 2013 at 15:20, Mac Burks (39) said...
Right Speaker = [Red +][Black -] (like the speaker terminals on most speakers)
Left Speaker = [White +][Green -] +1
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| Post 21 made on Thursday March 21, 2013 at 18:35 |
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This is actually standardized in CEA/CEDIA 2030a so there IS an industry standard to follow and it's recognized by CEA for use in CE devices.
"4.3.2 Speaker Wire and Connector Color Codes
All speaker cable conductors should be color coded, or distinctively marked to ensure proper polarity.
Two conductor cables generally contain a red and a black insulated conductor. The red conductor
shall be used for the positive terminals and the black conductor shall be used for the negative
terminals. Four conductor-unpaired cables generally contain red, black, white, and green conductors.
Red and black shall be positive and negative respectively, for the right speaker in each zone. White
shall be used for positive and green shall be used for negative to connect the left speaker. Other
colors may be used, but all connections must be consistent.
Speaker terminals shall be color coded in accordance with the color-coding scheme in CEA-863-A.
Special considerations should be taken for active speakers; follow manufacturer‘s instructions. "
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| Post 22 made on Thursday March 21, 2013 at 18:40 |
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anybody who is not wiring red+/black- right and white+/green- left is just flat out WRONG!!!! I hate when i go to a job that has been wired in any other method. It makes no sense.
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| Post 23 made on Thursday March 21, 2013 at 18:43 |
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On March 21, 2013 at 15:20, Mac Burks (39) said...
Right Speaker = [Red +][Black -] (like the speaker terminals on most speakers)
Left Speaker = [White +][Green -]
+infinity, and 568B.
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| Post 24 made on Thursday March 21, 2013 at 18:51 |
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Where are you guys finding lamp cord with red, black, green and white, mine is always brown?
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| Post 25 made on Thursday March 21, 2013 at 18:58 |
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On March 21, 2013 at 18:40, edizzle said...
anybody who is not wiring red+/black- right and white+/green- left is just flat out WRONG!!!! I hate when i go to a job that has been wired in any other method. It makes no sense. yes... it doesn't make sense to use black as negative for 2 conductor and then switch it to positive just because you have 4 conductors. Always keep black as negative. Green also symbolizes as an earth ground so it would make sense that it is ground. Not sure why anyone would switch that around
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| Post 26 made on Thursday March 21, 2013 at 19:08 |
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On March 21, 2013 at 18:40, edizzle said...
anybody who is not wiring red+/black- right and white+/green- left is just flat out WRONG!!!! I hate when i go to a job that has been wired in any other method. It makes no sense. I have one competitor in my town that has been wiring Red Green/White Blk for over 20 years and it drives me crazy when I stumble upon their work. At least I know who I'm following up on. But they still connect this way today. It's wrong and I'm guessing they know it.
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| Post 27 made on Thursday March 21, 2013 at 19:25 |
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On March 21, 2013 at 19:08, FP Crazy said...
I have one competitor in my town that has been wiring Red Green/White Blk for over 20 years and it drives me crazy when I stumble upon their work. At least I know who I'm following up on. But they still connect this way today. It's wrong and I'm guessing they know it. That was the standard at the first place i worked at. Use of brown lamp cord for the 2nd speaker was also part of the standard so...
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| Post 28 made on Thursday March 21, 2013 at 19:26 |
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When I first started out, I decided I would use green+/white-. Part of my decision was based on one of my favorite bands, Green On Red.
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| Post 29 made on Thursday March 21, 2013 at 19:36 |
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On March 21, 2013 at 16:09, ericspencer said...
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a buddy of mine is a electrician .. he goes with red and black are + and white and green are neg. Theory being that in electrical black and red are hot, white and green are neutral/ground. Easier for him to remember I guess I have seen this too from electricians. I stick with Red & White as hot. Green is always (-) or ground
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| Post 30 made on Thursday March 21, 2013 at 19:41 |
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On March 21, 2013 at 19:08, FP Crazy said...
I have one competitor in my town that has been wiring Red Green/White Blk for over 20 years and it drives me crazy when I stumble upon their work. At least I know who I'm following up on. But they still connect this way today. It's wrong and I'm guessing they know it. That's what I don't understand. Every AVR, amp, speaker splitter/selector and speaker, as well as most 1x/2 Ga speaker wire has Red/Black on the terminals (or wire jacket). How do you not pick Red/Black as a pair? The only question I sometimes ask my self is: does Left or Right come first for my Red/Black pair?
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