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How to run IP camera off a mobile hotspot?
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Post 1 made on Thursday August 23, 2012 at 15:30
bricor
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A buddy of mine is a builder and wants to stick an IP camera on a construction trailer at one of his sites. He doesn't want to record, just be able to pull it up and see if his trades are on site or not, etc. Only internet access is through a mobile hotspot.

Is there any way to have an IP camera and get it connected using the mobile hotspot? Was thinking a range extender or gaming adapter would get him a port to plug in to but I'm not sure how the routing part would be handled .
Post 2 made on Thursday August 23, 2012 at 17:19
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[Link: cradlepoint.com]
MikeZTC, CTS-D, CTS-I, DMC-E
Post 3 made on Thursday August 23, 2012 at 17:36
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That or any router ought to do it. Just plug the hotspot in to WAN or INTERNET port of the router.
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Post 4 made on Thursday August 23, 2012 at 18:23
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It is not that easy. If it does work Cradlepoint will likely have a hardware solution.

The problem you will likely have is the broadband modem cards need to have the ability to allow a WAN session to be initiated from the internet. Many broadband modems do not allow this. In my market less than a year ago Verizon was the only provder that had modem that allowed this. TMobile, AT&T, Sprint modems did not.

Clarify this with the ISP and be prepared to test this. The cellular store employees will tell you it works because they don't understand specifically what you're asking.
Post 5 made on Thursday August 23, 2012 at 18:26
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On August 23, 2012 at 18:23, BigPapa said...
It is not that easy. If it does work Cradlepoint will likely have a hardware solution.

The problem you will likely have is the broadband modem cards need to have the ability to allow a WAN session to be initiated from the internet. Many broadband modems do not allow this. In my market less than a year ago Verizon was the only provder that had modem that allowed this. TMobile, AT&T, Sprint modems did not.

Clarify this with the ISP and be prepared to test this. The cellular store employees will tell you it works because they don't understand specifically what you're asking.

I see. In other words, you're saying they are not the "always on connections" that work with typical routers.

What about the Clear devices? Same concept?

Is there something that could keep the connection live with a steady "trickle" of data?
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Post 6 made on Thursday August 23, 2012 at 18:39
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+1 or the cradlepoint.
Post 7 made on Thursday August 23, 2012 at 20:40
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On August 23, 2012 at 18:26, FrogAV said...
I see. In other words, you're saying they are not the "always on connections" that work with typical routers.

What about the Clear devices? Same concept?

Is there something that could keep the connection live with a steady "trickle" of data?

I don't know about the Clear devices.

Routers can be configured to allow sessions to be initiated from the WAN. The router is 'always on' but that doesn't necessarily mean it's always transmitting data.

You might be able to have a webcam stream to a storage sight offered by CCTV storage services, that may be a good cheat. Just be advised that using hot spots, the modem itself may not allow WAN side initiations even though the router such as a Cradlepoint (designed for to support a hot spot) will allow it. 
Post 8 made on Monday November 14, 2016 at 16:12
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Hi every one,

For quite some time I have been involved in this project and, though I have learned a score of new things, I am still far from solving the riddle. Once I do, however, I will make it an audible thing as I think there are folks looking for similar answers, which simply are not to be found out there.

What I want is exactly what was in bricor's question.
I have an IP camera which I want working out in the country with weak network coverage and no power. For those reasons it is important that the devices don't drain much current and have strong antennas (mobile internet dongles as well as my 2nd generation iPhone often won't have reception there).
Thus, I intended to use this camera along with a modern smartphone (many of my friends had good reception there, but their handsets were much newer than mine).

Now that I have gathered the toys, it turned out that I am not fully set. I learned now about port forwarding and DDNS. I can get the camera send alerts and pictures to email but can't view remotely (I am unable to set up port forwarding on android).
Please correct me if I'm mistaken: the camera can send IP along with alerts so in theory I could access it without the need for DDNS, as long as port forwarding functions, right?
As I have not bought a smartphone for that purpose (using a borrowed one), I am happy to invest in MiFi, as long as they have decent signal, but they seem to not support port forwarding or DDNS...

I will be grateful for any comments and piece of advice.

The recommended Cradlepoint seems great but now available here in Europe.

Kind regards,
Jim
Post 9 made on Tuesday November 15, 2016 at 00:09
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Most cellular internet plans do not give you a public WAN IP. In order to access services behind such a connection you usually have to add an additional service to the plan/account. What each carrier calls this varies but generally you want to ask for 'public IP service', 'static IP service' or 'VPN service'. One you get a rep who understands what you want, for an additional $10-15 a month they'll add it to your account and then all you need to do is forward the ports. Static IP service is usually a bit more, but the IP will never change and you won't need a DDNS account.
Post 10 made on Tuesday November 15, 2016 at 02:53
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Thank you very much, Wozman!
Now, when I learned about DDNS and port forwarding I thought that was it, but obviously not :-)
So, as I understand it, it won't even work with the Cradlepoint in earlier posts, will it?
Post 11 made on Tuesday November 15, 2016 at 09:51
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Do you really need to access the camera directly?
I wonder if you are able to forward all the motion or timed events to a server/NVR you have access to.
I may be schizophrenic, but at least I have each other.
Post 12 made on Tuesday November 15, 2016 at 10:25
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On November 15, 2016 at 02:53, JimmyRemote said...
Thank you very much, Wozman!
Now, when I learned about DDNS and port forwarding I thought that was it, but obviously not :-)
So, as I understand it, it won't even work with the Cradlepoint in earlier posts, will it?

The Cradlepoints are Cellular modems specifically designed to work as WANs. they work great. But are very expensive. the hardware and the service.
Post 13 made on Tuesday November 15, 2016 at 18:39
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I'm not sure as to how the cradlepoint system works, but if it uses a sim card from a cellular providor then most likely it will be the same, (WAN IP is actually a 10.x.x.x private address, not accessible externally unless you request public IP service or equivalent from your carrier).
Post 14 made on Tuesday November 15, 2016 at 20:15
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instead of spending a fortune on cradlepoint, just use a MoFi router. Get service. $68.71 a month, FULL access to router/ports. Works just about flawlessly. I have replaced EVERY SINGLE satellite ISP customer we have with this solution. I have the happiest customers in the world. No data limits and they can watch netflix. Its been a game changer for us as we are in central texas with mostly rural customers/ranches. Let me know if you need more info and i can send you contact info for these plans.
Post 15 made on Wednesday November 16, 2016 at 01:12
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Tucker, can you send me that info?
Got a client in the boonies that has weak DSL service.
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