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Sonos line-in delay - how bad?
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Post 1 made on Wednesday June 27, 2012 at 09:58
jimstolz76
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Is the line in on a ZP totally unusable for a video source? e.g. DirecTV receiver plugged into a ZP for ceiling speakers in adjacent rooms
Post 2 made on Wednesday June 27, 2012 at 10:08
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I use my CONNECT as the amp for my TV. Analog audio out of TV into CONNECT. HDMI sources into the TV. No noticeable delay at all. The auto-on for the line-in source is awesome. Turn the TV on, and the CONNECT automatically selects the line-in source at a preset volume level. Now if you were to come directly out of a source with analog audio, and send the HDMI to the TV, maybe there would be a bit of a delay. Only one way to find out. Try it and see. I have seen others mention a delay processor that goes inline between an analog source and processor, but I do not recall who makes it or what it is called.
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Post 3 made on Wednesday June 27, 2012 at 10:15
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i have a ZP90 connected to a DirecTV box in a kitchen with analog audio inputs. the ZP100 is in the rack in another room connected to in-ceiling speakers in the kitchen. they are connected via hardwired network. no delay. i couldn't believe it when i first tried it.
Post 4 made on Wednesday June 27, 2012 at 10:23
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On June 27, 2012 at 10:08, Audiophiliac said...
I have seen others mention a delay processor that goes inline between an analog source and processor, but I do not recall who makes it or what it is called.

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Post 5 made on Wednesday June 27, 2012 at 10:33
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I've experienced the delay with analog inputs into Sonos, but haven't tried it for 6-8 months.  Maybe they've improved it with recent updates?

An audio delay device won't help with this, because they audio is already delayed behind the video.  You'd need a video delay device to correct the issue.
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Post 6 made on Wednesday June 27, 2012 at 13:29
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On June 27, 2012 at 10:08, Audiophiliac said...
Turn the TV on, and the CONNECT automatically selects the line-in source at a preset volume level.

I'm not in front a system to check...can this feature be disabled similar to the Sonos dock priority override? In other words I do not want the Sonos to automatically switch to the line in source when the line in source becomes active.
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Post 7 made on Wednesday June 27, 2012 at 13:41
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On June 27, 2012 at 10:33, SB Smarthomes said...
An audio delay device won't help with this, because they audio is already delayed behind the video.  You'd need a video delay device to correct the issue.

I was under the impression that it was the TV's processing of the Video signal that inserted delay (video) into most systems with lip-sync issues.

Analog audio processing is fast-enough to not cause significant delays.

This is why if you run, for example, HDMI to your TV and then the audio out from the TV to an amplifier the audio and video is in-sync, but if you run analog audio from your source direct to the amp and video to the TV you get lip-sync issues.

I could be wrong...
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Post 8 made on Wednesday June 27, 2012 at 14:00
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Delay varies based on the compression level, no compression and it's not even noticeable, add compression it adds delay. You can set the compression on/off on the line inputs.

The SonosNet will automatically adjust all Sonos playback devices to keep the sound in sync, but it can't sync to a third party amp unless it's driven from a Sonos line level output.
Post 9 made on Wednesday June 27, 2012 at 19:25
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On June 27, 2012 at 13:29, tweeterguy said...
I'm not in front a system to check...can this feature be disabled similar to the Sonos dock priority override? In other words I do not want the Sonos to automatically switch to the line in source when the line in source becomes active.

Yes you can disable it. New in 3.6 I believe.
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Post 10 made on Thursday June 28, 2012 at 00:41
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On June 27, 2012 at 10:33, SB Smarthomes said...
I've experienced the delay with analog inputs into Sonos, but haven't tried it for 6-8 months.  Maybe they've improved it with recent updates?

An audio delay device won't help with this, because they audio is already delayed behind the video.  You'd need a video delay device to correct the issue.

It's possible that the systems described with no delay happen to have audio delay and the TV delays the video about the same amount, so... no delay.

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