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How to Organize Cables During Rough-in
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| Topic: | How to Organize Cables During Rough-in This thread has 30 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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| Post 1 made on Sunday June 17, 2012 at 21:00 |
crosen Senior Member |
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How do you color, label and organize wire during rough-in to minimize the amount of time required for testing, terminating, etc.? Seems we're spending much too much time sorting out the bundles and identifying wire. Projects range from 20 to 100 drops, with 1 to 6 wires per drop. Thanks.
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| Post 2 made on Sunday June 17, 2012 at 21:07 |
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| Post 3 made on Sunday June 17, 2012 at 21:22 |
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| Post 4 made on Sunday June 17, 2012 at 21:29 |
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| Post 5 made on Sunday June 17, 2012 at 21:31 |
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I color code all wires
White cat5 = pots
Blue cat = network
White rg6 = catv
Black rg6 = incoming catv
Grey rg6 = sat and fm antennas
Yellow cat = incoming pots
Other colors for tps, video feeds, etc
This Coloring scheme helps in bundling like colors together and really helps in routing IMHO.
Ymmv
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| Post 6 made on Sunday June 17, 2012 at 21:39 |
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I find it's quicker to take a couple hours at the end of a rough-in to sort, relabel, and cut wires to length at the equipment rack / panel end than to come back to a large, mixed-up wire snake. And when I'm working by myself I'll get into OCD mode, pull every wire to within a couple inches, and then just have to sort by type / destination.
I LOVE colored wire as long as it's used consistently on a drop-by-drop basis. If it weren't for interior designers I would have every catX jack match the jacket color to give an instant visual identification of which port to use for voice / data / video / control.
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| Post 7 made on Sunday June 17, 2012 at 22:50 |
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Look for Mac's response from few/several months ago.
He's prints 4 labels. First on end run, 2nd on head-end at end of cable, I forget where the other 2 went, but it all made sense when I was reading it.
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| Post 8 made on Monday June 18, 2012 at 01:22 |
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| Post 9 made on Monday June 18, 2012 at 01:27 |
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On June 18, 2012 at 01:22, scoop city said...
what is a pots? It is what you put your pot in, pots!! ;) Plain old telephone system.
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| Post 10 made on Monday June 18, 2012 at 02:47 |
On June 17, 2012 at 21:31, oex said...
I color code all wires
White cat5 = pots
Blue cat = network
White rg6 = catv
Black rg6 = incoming catv
Grey rg6 = sat and fm antennas
Yellow cat = incoming pots +1
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| Post 11 made on Monday June 18, 2012 at 03:43 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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Plain Old Telephone Signal. This avoids the possible misunderstanding that a system is involved; it's what we had before PBXs and all that stuff.
Those other two labels were probably placed five or six feet from the end, because it can always happen that you trim some wires and mistakenly cut off the label near the end.
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| Post 12 made on Monday June 18, 2012 at 05:26 |
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On June 18, 2012 at 03:43, Ernie Gilman said...
Those other two labels were probably placed five or six feet from the end, because it can always happen that you trim some wires and mistakenly cut off the label near the end. Had an extra minute this time around so I found that post: [Link: remotecentral.com]Either Mac repeats himself, or time flies faster than I realized because the referenced post is actually " Post 2 made on Thursday June 18, 2009 at 14:36"
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| Post 13 made on Monday June 18, 2012 at 09:21 |
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On June 17, 2012 at 21:31, oex said...
I color code all wires
White cat5 = pots
Blue cat = network
White rg6 = catv
Black rg6 = incoming catv
Grey rg6 = sat and fm antennas
Yellow cat = incoming pots
Other colors for tps, video feeds, etc
This Coloring scheme helps in bundling like colors together and really helps in routing IMHO.
Ymmv +1 I also use orange for keypads and green for control cabling. This colour choice is more of a result of trying to be consistent with the lighting control system that I work with and the colours that they use.
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| Post 14 made on Monday June 18, 2012 at 12:22 |
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On June 17, 2012 at 21:00, crosen said...
How do you color, label and organize wire during rough-in to minimize the amount of time required for testing, terminating, etc.? Seems we're spending much too much time sorting out the bundles and identifying wire. Projects range from 20 to 100 drops, with 1 to 6 wires per drop. Thanks. There is also a great post by BigPapa on IP BigPapa's Commercial Residential Approach to Prewire
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| Post 15 made on Monday June 18, 2012 at 18:26 |
KVH Advanced Member |
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Scotch tape and a sharpie! Everything gets a label. In 8 years I can count on one hand how many times I had to tone a wire due to no label.
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