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Fun with Pioneer Plasma...
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Post 1 made on Tuesday April 16, 2002 at 18:37
Ahl
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When I started this installation, the TV that was brought to me wasn't even in development... (the floor guys and sheetrock guys took a year to finish)

Anyway, they brought me this really nice Pioneer plasma tv- a PDP-503MXE. This is the one with the separate media receiver... This is a TV in a bedroom, mounted above a fireplace...


The only inputs for this TV are from a special set of serial and parallel cable look-alikes with a weird pin configuration...

First question.... the cable is 8ft long- the required length is 20 feet. Anyone know offhand if Pioneer makes an extension for this (my distributor is closed so i can't ask him.... heh)
2) If there IS an extension, will there be a lot of signal loss associated with it?

I want to put the media receiver on the fireplace mantle, under the tv, but the customer will balk at that....

Al
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Post 2 made on Tuesday April 16, 2002 at 19:10
John Pechulis
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See this thread:

[Link: remotecentral.com]

OP | Post 3 made on Tuesday April 23, 2002 at 18:48
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ah, yes.. i saw it a minute after i posted mine....

Anyway... Pioneer's parts department has a 7 meter cable for this app.. that's what... 22 feet?

Perfect length...

Anyway, the customer was watching the tv all day Sunday (using a temporary hookup), when the tv went on the fritz... A grey line appeared in the middle of the screen, then, a minute later, the screen went fuzzy.

It even does this with all component inputs turned off...

Anyone have this happen to one of these before, or is this model too new right now?

Al

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Post 4 made on Tuesday April 23, 2002 at 22:10
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I ordered 2 10' cables and coupled them together for a 20' length. It did not work...picture was unacceptable.
Pioneer, as well as the people I ordered the cables from, said that even 10' was pushing it--they were right!
The 3 meter cable that Pioneer supplies is actually 2 cables bonded together, side by side (a control cable and a video cable):

The "control" cable is a DFP (digital flat panel) 20 pin, male to male cable. It is an early type flat panel cable that is being phased out in the PC monitor industry. As far as I can tell, it is used for the control portion of the Pioneer TV/Media Receiver.
The "Video" cable is a "DVI-D Dual Link" digital visual interface cable, male to male. This cable, and the type of signal that it carries, is not designed for lengths over 10', according to everything I've researched. It is my understanding that this cable carries the "Video" portion of the Pioneer Plasma/Media Receiver.
The Pioneer Plasma and the Media Receiver each have female inputs for the two cables.
My final solution:
I got the clients a 50" Panasonic Plasma, with all connections on the TV itself.
Sorry Pioneer...
Post 5 made on Tuesday April 23, 2002 at 22:14
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FYI,
Some DVI cable links:

[Link: cable4pc.com]

[Link: networktechinc.com]

[Link: monitoroutlet.com]
Post 6 made on Friday May 10, 2002 at 07:53
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We have had the same problem. Our supplier told us that Pioneer is still testing the reliability of a cable over 12ft. They suggested to us not to use anything over 8ft for the time being. On the same note...Why in God's name can't Pioneer be kind enough to add direct input selection to their new plasma's?!?!? It makes "idiot proofing" a remote much easier. You'd figure with the price of the display, that you wouldn't have to cycle through the inputs. Just my 2 cents
Post 7 made on Wednesday May 22, 2002 at 19:51
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Didn't know about the distance limitations, it does have control limitations - No discrete power on via RS232. It also has a tendency to lock up if you change the aspect ratio on a High Definition source. You can still do direct input selection with the same IR codes used by other Pioneer TV's.
Post 8 made on Thursday May 23, 2002 at 22:57
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Above a fireplace? Bad idea....
Post 9 made on Friday May 24, 2002 at 06:38
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On 05/23/02 22:57.04, Matt said...
Above a fireplace? Bad idea....

We've actually mounted a lot of plasma's above fireplaces and haven't had any problems yet. It seems to be what they all want now. I suppose if the hearth is built correctly it shouldn't get hot where the screen is. If i was to worry about anything it would be soot from a wood fireplace. But luckily most people that can afford plasmas tend to go with the enclosed gas fireplaces.
Post 10 made on Friday May 24, 2002 at 12:25
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Heat energy can be transmitted in three ways: Convection, conduction, and radiation.

Any properly-drafting fireplace will not output convection heat into a room. Proper construction practices prevent conduction to the inside surfaces. Radiation is the warmth we all enjoy from a fire.

A plasma or other flat-panel screen will probably generate more heat than it would receive from a fireplace. I'd be more worried about heat from a nearby air register aimed at the monitor.

Larry
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Post 11 made on Friday May 24, 2002 at 20:54
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Who whould use (or even need) a fireplace in houston?

Post 12 made on Friday May 24, 2002 at 21:43
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Look at some of the audio magazines. Audio Interiors is one that comes to mind. There were several houses featured from Texas that have fireplaces.

JJP

This message was edited by John Pechulis on 05/24/02 21:43.43.
Post 13 made on Friday May 24, 2002 at 22:25
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where is texas?????
Post 14 made on Monday May 27, 2002 at 22:10
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a fireplace for show i would say ok--if your gonna actually use the fireplace there is no way in hell i would hang a $10,000 tv over a working fireplace--accidents happen...enough said
Post 15 made on Sunday June 2, 2002 at 14:44
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I suppose all the nicnacs that are displayed on the mantle would burn also. Plasma over a fireplace is the most logical place, since architects make it the focal point of the room
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