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Standby pass-through on Yamaha receivers.
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Post 1 made on Tuesday February 28, 2012 at 20:20
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I had a potential customer ask me about this in regards to his Yamaha RX-V871.
He was told that the AV would "pass through" when the unit was in standby mode, so that you don't have to always use the system speakers. The pass-through would use the TV speakers, and everything else, cable, DVD etc, would work normally.

I saw a reference (not an explanation) to it in the manual, and I googled it and found a bit more, but I want to know more before I tell him it is what he's looking for. Just wondered if anyone uses Yamaha and is familiar with this.

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Post 2 made on Tuesday February 28, 2012 at 20:34
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On February 28, 2012 at 20:20, GLS said...
I had a potential customer ask me about this in regards to his Yamaha RX-V871.
He was told that the AV would "pass through" when the unit was in standby mode, so that you don't have to always use the system speakers. The pass-through would use the TV speakers, and everything else, cable, DVD etc, would work normally.

I saw a reference (not an explanation) to it in the manual, and I googled it and found a bit more, but I want to know more before I tell him it is what he's looking for. Just wondered if anyone uses Yamaha and is familiar with this.

TIA,
G

I do use Yamaha, but have not really tried it due to no one asking for this feature. However, when in training I do remember the rep demonstrating that it will in fact pass the audio AND video through to the TV while it is off. I just do not remember if you had to enable this feature in the menu or not. This was with the Aventage line though.
Post 3 made on Tuesday February 28, 2012 at 23:07
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I've seen it demoed.

I can't remember exactly which of these is Yamaha, which Denon, but --
Yamaha can pass through last chosen HDMI
Yamaha can select HDMI even though the Yamaha is off
One or the other or both can be set to pass one particular HDMI when the power is off.

It was cool seeing the HDMI be switched when the Yamaha was off. I keep getting customers who want to be able to watch TV and DVDs with the system off or on, so this is great.
We can't give you a good answer, or maybe any, without the make and model of everything.
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Post 4 made on Tuesday February 28, 2012 at 23:10
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The Avantage series do video and audio while the receiver is in stand alone.  So do the Sony ES receivers.
Post 5 made on Wednesday February 29, 2012 at 00:24
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You DO mean just HDMI, right? That's what Yamaha does. I don't know about Sony ES.

Someone was getting on me the other day for being too technical about what was electrical work. How about we all plan an installation or two using these receivers without getting technical about whether the passed signal is HDMI or something else?
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Post 6 made on Wednesday February 29, 2012 at 01:39
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Enter Mr. Non-Yamaha...so you're saying the Yamaha Aventage will pass hdmi audio and video thru the AVR to the display while in standby AND also switch hdmi Inputs while remaining in standby? I thought Yamaha now turns on via input commands (like Denon does) so how would this work? I don't really like this from a programming standpoint but the idea for tech savvy clients seems kind of cool.
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Post 7 made on Wednesday February 29, 2012 at 04:44
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On February 29, 2012 at 01:39, tweeterguy said...
Enter Mr. Non-Yamaha...so you're saying the Yamaha Aventage will pass hdmi audio and video thru the AVR to the display while in standby AND also switch hdmi Inputs while remaining in standby?

Yes.

I thought Yamaha now turns on via input commands (like Denon does) so how would this work?

I don't remember, as I just saw it in a training, but it was simple and it seems like it could be easily automated... to answer your next point.

I don't really like this from a programming standpoint

But why? It's just some different button pushes. This almost seems to me like objecting to TV discrete inputs because you're used to channel up + input + input + input + input to get to video input four.

but the idea for tech savvy clients seems kind of cool.

It does. And it's even better if you get over your reaction to it and program it for a client.
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Post 8 made on Wednesday February 29, 2012 at 06:35
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Aventage series does not turn on via input command
OP | Post 9 made on Wednesday February 29, 2012 at 08:32
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On February 29, 2012 at 06:35, goldenzrule said...
Aventage series does not turn on via input command

That bites. How quickly will they take an input command? Back when Denon didn't do that I had to use 8-10 sec delays at start up to change inputs. I hate that.
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Post 10 made on Wednesday February 29, 2012 at 08:40
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The Yamaha will turn on by the scene buttons that are able to turn on and input commands together. The upper models have 8 scene buttons in the IR database, and the base models only have 4.
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OP | Post 11 made on Wednesday February 29, 2012 at 08:45
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Yes I was talking about HDMI cabling to everything. I see too that if you can change inputs for the pass-through, and the unit powers up on an input command, you would turn it on every time you changed inputs. Is it possible that with pass-through enabled it bypasses the power on function of the input command? That would be the best of both worlds.

I've had several people over the years ask to route audio to the tv so that they didn't have to use the system just to watch the news. I don't get that.
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Post 12 made on Wednesday February 29, 2012 at 08:59
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Input commands and scene buttons are different commands. Scene turns the receiver on and switches input and settings. Input commands don't automatically turn on the receiver.
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Post 13 made on Wednesday February 29, 2012 at 09:51
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It also is very quick to change inputs on startup
Post 14 made on Wednesday February 29, 2012 at 10:06
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On February 29, 2012 at 08:59, modom said...
Input commands and scene buttons are different commands. Scene turns the receiver on and switches input and settings. Input commands don't automatically turn on the receiver.

Well there you go; that makes this pass thru feature quite useable then. Thanks for clearing it up.
- Chris
OP | Post 15 made on Wednesday February 29, 2012 at 10:22
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On February 29, 2012 at 08:59, modom said...
Input commands and scene buttons are different commands. Scene turns the receiver on and switches input and settings. Input commands don't automatically turn on the receiver.

I agree with tweeterguy. That clears things up and knowing that makes programming much easier.
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