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Topic: | What brand Cat5e/6 patch cable are you using? This thread has 31 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 30. |
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Post 16 made on Thursday February 23, 2012 at 07:32 |
jmacdonald Active Member |
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OP | Post 17 made on Thursday February 23, 2012 at 13:54 |
netarc Senior Member |
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On February 22, 2012 at 18:45, SOUND.SD said...
I really don't understand this statement. Too hard to bend or manipulate? Are you not terminating long runs in the field?
Sure it may cost more for making them but then they are cut to length. No different than every other cable we make. Takes maybe 5 minutes to make a cable and you test it immediately. No shipping either. I'm not saying I make all of my jumpers but to be surprised that someone might is a little shocking to me. Am I missing something. Fair enough ... I guess where I'm coming from is I've had to cut and reterminate stranded cable a couple of times, and it was a total PITA. Up until then I hadn't realized how easy it was to term solid cable in comparison. But re: my other comment, iirc a solid patch cable is way less flex than a stranded, but I suppose not enough to make a significant difference. To each their own, that's one reason I started this thread was to see what other peeps are doing that works in the field. From my perspective, I'm not particularly fast at terminations so I echo jimstolz76's comment that using premade 1/3/5-foot cables is a huge timesaver (for us).
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Post 18 made on Thursday February 23, 2012 at 21:31 |
SOUND.SD Loyal Member |
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On February 23, 2012 at 13:54, netarc said...
Fair enough ... I guess where I'm coming from is I've had to cut and reterminate stranded cable a couple of times, and it was a total PITA. Up until then I hadn't realized how easy it was to term solid cable in comparison.
But re: my other comment, iirc a solid patch cable is way less flex than a stranded, but I suppose not enough to make a significant difference.
To each their own, that's one reason I started this thread was to see what other peeps are doing that works in the field. From my perspective, I'm not particularly fast at terminations so I echo jimstolz76's comment that using premade 1/3/5-foot cables is a huge timesaver (for us). I totally get the "time saver" part. Ive never seen stranded CAT cable and didnt know there was "stiffer" CAT cable. Every box/spool of CAT cable I have ever bought has been roughly the same 4 twisted pair 24 AWG, exactly like the cable you are buying pre-terminated. So I just honestly didnt understand the response. Wasnt meant to be a negative comment.
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Post 19 made on Thursday February 23, 2012 at 21:52 |
PeterN Active Member |
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On February 23, 2012 at 21:31, SOUND.SD said...
I totally get the "time saver" part. Ive never seen stranded CAT cable and didnt know there was "stiffer" CAT cable. Every box/spool of CAT cable I have ever bought has been roughly the same 4 twisted pair 24 AWG, exactly like the cable you are buying pre-terminated. If it comes in a box, 99% (or greater) likelihood that it's solid. Better performance over distance. If it comes pre-terminated, it's stranded. Easier to route through racks, and unplug and replug without breaking conductors.
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Post 20 made on Thursday February 23, 2012 at 23:05 |
jmacdonald Active Member |
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On February 23, 2012 at 21:52, PeterN said...
If it comes in a box, 99% (or greater) likelihood that it's solid. Better performance over distance.
If it comes pre-terminated, it's stranded. Easier to route through racks, and unplug and replug without breaking conductors. It's possible to buy stranded cable out of a box... [Link: computerplug.com]look at second list of items.
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Post 21 made on Friday February 24, 2012 at 05:22 |
Indigo Select Member |
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On February 23, 2012 at 21:31, SOUND.SD said...
I totally get the "time saver" part. Ive never seen stranded CAT cable and didnt know there was "stiffer" CAT cable. Every box/spool of CAT cable I have ever bought has been roughly the same 4 twisted pair 24 AWG, exactly like the cable you are buying pre-terminated. So I just honestly didnt understand the response. Wasnt meant to be a negative comment. Strip one of those premade, you will see the different. I encountered "bad" premade patch cords packed with routers. Wasted hours on checking on connections and re-testing. Never thought those premade were POS. Since, I prefer to made path cords myself.
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OP | Post 22 made on Friday February 24, 2012 at 13:25 |
netarc Senior Member |
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On February 24, 2012 at 05:22, Indigo said...
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Strip one of those premade, you will see the different.
I encountered "bad" premade patch cords packed with routers. Wasted hours on checking on connections and re-testing. Never thought those premade were POS. Since, I prefer to made path cords myself. oh yah ... those prepackaged patch cords that come with routers, aps, switches ... never use those, just asking for trouble! Do you see how tight they bend 'em to stuff 'em in the box? minimum radial #fail
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Post 23 made on Sunday February 26, 2012 at 16:15 |
Mogul Senior Member |
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CAT5e or CAT6 Snagless from CablesToGo--Sign up as a dealer [if you're a dealer, that is].
Beyond 14', I make my own with Belden 1700a Bonded Pair CAT5e or Belden CAT6 and Platinum EZRJ ends.
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Post 24 made on Monday February 27, 2012 at 05:06 |
Mario Loyal Member |
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I always try to use pre-made. If I need custom length, of say 3' & 4', I'll take 8-10' pre-made, plug one end into a jack, route the wire and cut to size. Then I do the same with the other side. I get two custom length cables and I only had to make two jacks. It saves me time and money.
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Post 25 made on Wednesday October 16, 2013 at 01:44 |
Alexbrown012 Lurking Member |
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Post 26 made on Wednesday October 16, 2013 at 02:09 |
Mario Loyal Member |
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On October 16, 2013 at 01:44, Alexbrown012 said...
I always prefer to use monoprice, is best for me. I recently saw a post from 8 years ago. You should post there as well.
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Post 27 made on Wednesday October 16, 2013 at 07:22 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
Joined: Posts: | December 2001 30,104 |
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Alex, your message is not well thought out. It conveys a very negative impression of you and your services. First, you tell us that the best cable for you is from a supplier whom we know as one of the cheapest suppliers of often cheap goods. You say this company provides the "best" without saying what you have compared it to. This makes you look bad. Then, in your fourth post here, you ask for our business. You're asking other installers to use your services, some of which they supply. I bring up your fourth post because you've not been here contributing to solving problems people have; you're just here for the money. After telling us that you don't understand "best" and recommending something cheap. Back off a bit. Visit here. Answer questions. Provide reasons for you to use terms such as "best." Then you might be believable.
Last edited by Ernie Gilman on October 16, 2013 08:59.
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Post 28 made on Wednesday October 16, 2013 at 10:53 |
rpssat Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | August 2012 241 |
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Usually buy 1',2',3' from a reputable wholesale supplier, we have some things colour coded in the enclosure so I stock a few colours. It does take time if you premake on the job, if you make a pile here and there on a slow day that’s fine, I use to do that but now I can get a bunch at a good price and just ad some in on orders when I need them or if I'm running low.
Oh, come to think of it I need some now lol.
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Post 29 made on Wednesday October 16, 2013 at 10:59 |
GotGame Super Member |
Joined: Posts: | February 2002 4,022 |
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On February 22, 2012 at 15:03, Impaqt said...
Cablewholesale.com
lots of colors and lengths to choose from. Strain relief, nice cables. Never have an issue with em.
Same here!
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Post 30 made on Wednesday October 16, 2013 at 11:12 |
SB Smarthomes Super Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2007 2,634 |
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I just signed up with cablesys.com. The thing that sold me is that the bulk cables come in nice zip lock bags. It's the little things like this that make life easier. If you've ever had to dig through a big box of individual patch cables to find the right length you can appreciate this. [Link: cablesys.com]
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