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Proper Installtion Of Plasma On Wall Metal Studs
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Post 1 made on Wednesday March 31, 2004 at 17:27
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Dose anyone know of any websights for specific way of reinforcing interior wall with metal studs a 50" plasma. All the manufactures like chief, peerles, wont supply and support information due to liability. Lots of help they are supply the goods with no instruction.
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Post 2 made on Wednesday March 31, 2004 at 17:47
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A few years back, I had to install several 27" TV wall mount brackets on metal stud walls.

Vantage Point advised me to cut a sheet of 3/4" plywood wide enough so that it would hit 3 studs then attach it to the studs using 6 Toggler brand toggle bolts. Toggler's are much stronger then standard wall toggles.

The bracket was then toggled to the 3/4" plywood. They've been up 6 years without incident.

Post 3 made on Wednesday March 31, 2004 at 21:14
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I have installed several plasmas on walls built with those thin metal studs. Using regular brand X toggles. Never had one problem.

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Post 4 made on Thursday April 1, 2004 at 03:11
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I have installed probably 100+ plasmas over the past 5 years on metal studs using nothing but normal screws. Only 3 have fallen down and all 3 happened after the warranty period resulting in a new sale.
Post 5 made on Thursday April 1, 2004 at 04:00
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On 04/01/04 03:11, QQQ said...
I have installed probably 100+ plasmas over the
past 5 years on metal studs using nothing but
normal screws. Only 3 have fallen down and all
3 happened after the warranty period resulting
in a new sale.

LOL i use blue tack!!
Post 6 made on Thursday April 1, 2004 at 07:58
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You can get some self drilling screws at Lowes, they have a hex head an can take lots of torque. You may need to drill holes in the mounting bracket specificly for each screw
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Post 7 made on Thursday April 1, 2004 at 09:48
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On 04/01/04 03:11, QQQ said...
I have installed probably 100+ plasmas over the
past 5 years on metal studs using nothing but
normal screws. Only 3 have fallen down and all
3 happened after the warranty period resulting
in a new sale.

ONLY THREE!

Me thinks you are playing with a major business closing lawsuit should one of those falldowns occur when a toddler is underneath the TV. Are you in an earthquake zone? If so please give us a list of any commercial establishments you may have put these in so we may avoid them like the plague.

Overbuilding is my solution. Be a drywall guy or hire one. Tear out the section of wall and frame in wood... charge extra. At the very least do the three stud plywood thing (using 13 ply marine grade if going for 3/4). You can use 1 1/8 inch and rerock the existing 1/2 inch wall with 5/8 rock if the TV is smaller than three studs and you want the wall to appear flush.

I too have installed 100+ plasmas but NONE of mine have ever fallen down because they are all over-engineered (I am presently pounding on my forehead saying "knock on wood"). We just recently walked away from a job because the client wouldn't go for our solution... no skin off my back, let someone else get the lawsuit.

All TVs we hang have to pass the fat-boy test. I (fat-boy at 200+ lbs) have to hang and do chin ups on the mount before a TV goes on... especially commercial tube TVs. We WON'T install one on a shelf mount... has to be a yoke as I've replaced a shelf mounted Tv in a Bar and Grill that almost killed a waitress when it fell off. I'd say this is one time to cover all your bases and if you need sales ammo... just take QQQ,s quote along with you and ask your customer if he/she would like to be one of the three?(sparing his name of course)
Post 8 made on Thursday April 1, 2004 at 10:40
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QQQ, very funny.
I have done quite a few installs up to and including a few 61s. I use the plywood with toggles through the metal stud method. Five years and no crashes of course. I am naming this the PWT3MS mounting system and will be charging accordingly.
Post 9 made on Thursday April 1, 2004 at 11:31
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I must not have had enough caffeine this morning to see through Qs humor. I was hoping he wasn't serious but after waking up and re-reading it I guess the jokes on me for taking it seriously. I put up a sarcastic post a while ago and people took me seriously too... hard to tell inflection from type

I still may use the quote just for the f--k of it.
Post 10 made on Thursday April 1, 2004 at 12:38
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I used to use nails but got worried they'd fail before the warranty period ended.
Post 11 made on Thursday April 1, 2004 at 13:27
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Ive found that Velcro works wonderfully. SPreads the weight out evenly over the wall as long as you use enough of it.... I usually use 5 strips on a 42", 6 on a 50" and 10 on a 60" panel....

No need for a Silly bracket that sticks the plasma out another 3-4" either!

[Link: misterart.com]
Post 12 made on Thursday April 1, 2004 at 16:46
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On 04/01/04 13:27, Impaqt said...
Ive found that Velcro works wonderfully. SPreads
the weight out evenly over the wall as long as
you use enough of it.... I usually use 5 strips
on a 42", 6 on a 50" and 10 on a 60" panel....

No need for a Silly bracket that sticks the plasma
out another 3-4" either!

Are you using 1" wide velcro or 2"? :-}
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Post 13 made on Thursday April 1, 2004 at 20:55
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On 04/01/04 11:31, rhm9 said...
... after waking up and re-reading it
I guess the jokes on me for taking it seriously.

You have noticed the date, haven't you?
Post 14 made on Thursday April 1, 2004 at 22:11
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we have found the PL-400, or Liquid Nails are very effective...downside is it's BITCH to get off the wall if it breaks...

If you're in a cooler climate, hot glue from elmer's will work also!

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Post 15 made on Friday April 2, 2004 at 01:58
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A 3% failure rate is more than exceptable, as you've found out Q. Here in SoCal, where the ground tends to shake from time to time, I've found even toggled plasmas tend to hit the deck on occasion. I always direct my clients to [Link: apa.org] before I arrive with an estimate for a replacement. So far as super glue, Velcro, nails and such, I would reserve those installation choices for plasma displays purchased over the internet.
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