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Ceiling fan with IR or RS-232 control?
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Post 1 made on Thursday July 14, 2011 at 14:41
Jason Allan
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Does anyone know of any ceiling fans with IR or even RS-232 control? I've seen a few fans with remotes but they all appear to be some sort of proprietary RF.

Thanks
Post 2 made on Thursday July 14, 2011 at 14:57
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RS-232? On a ceiling fan? Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha! (Well, you could if you had a whole-house system like HomeWorks. It's just that the first thought that came to mind was a ceiling fan with a DB-9 connector:-)

Don't focus on the ceiling fan, focus on the wall switch. You will find several ceiling fan speed controls that you can control via IR and/or other protocols, such as UPB or Z-Wave.

[Link: lutron.com]

[Link: leviton.com]
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Post 3 made on Thursday July 14, 2011 at 15:03
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agreed. if you are doing a control system, and a lighting system (i have to assume if you are controlling the fan you would be controlling the lights as well), most systems have options for wall switches that can handle fans.
Post 4 made on Wednesday July 20, 2011 at 01:23
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leviton has a zwave fan switches also
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Post 5 made on Wednesday July 20, 2011 at 01:42
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On July 20, 2011 at 01:23, twilo123 said...
leviton has a zwave fan switches also

That's why I put a direct link to it two posts above your post:-)
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Post 6 made on Wednesday July 20, 2011 at 01:55
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duh, my bad david. thanks for correcting :)
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Post 7 made on Wednesday July 20, 2011 at 02:58
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On July 20, 2011 at 01:42, davidcasemore said...
That's why I put a direct link to it two posts above your post:-)

Yeah, but leviton and lutron look very similar when you're reading real fast.
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Post 8 made on Wednesday July 20, 2011 at 03:26
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WattStopper had a fan control in the Miro line with 2-way RS-232 communication via a module that communicated to the devices via RF...

I say 'had' because they disabled the 2-way communication on from the wireless products to satisfy a patent infringement claim from Lutron rather than pay the royalty and jack up the pricing.

The devices still exist (fan controls and the IR and RS-232 modules), but recent versions have a different firmware so now the RS-232 is one-way only and the devices do not send feedback.

The pricing is pretty decent compared to RadioRa.
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Post 9 made on Wednesday July 20, 2011 at 06:55
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On July 14, 2011 at 14:41, Jason Allan said...
Does anyone know of any ceiling fans with IR or even RS-232 control? I've seen a few fans with remotes but they all appear to be some sort of proprietary RF.

Thanks

Most of the switches that have been recommended are simply a switch that can handle a motor load. It's either on or off.

I know Lutron doesn't make a Radio Ra "fan" controller. Every time I talk to the area rep I give him s#$t about it. Apparently there is one in development but they don't have a timeline.
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Post 10 made on Wednesday July 20, 2011 at 09:35
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you could use UPB products to get it done and have 232....but to dim lights and control fan you would need to have it wired so the lights and fan are not on the same legs.
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OP | Post 11 made on Wednesday July 20, 2011 at 09:58
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Thanks everyone. I should have been more specific about the ceiling fan. What I meant was a ceiling fan/light combo to replace an existing light fixture. I know about solutions using the switch as the control point but the problem with that is as mr2channel pointed out - you can't independently control the fan and lights from the same switch. That's why I was hoping there might be a fan/light combo that actually had an IR receiver instead of RF. I knew RS-232 was a huge long shot but I had to ask :).

However, running a second Romex to the fixture and using two switches or a combo switch isn't that big of a deal now that I think about it since it's an unfinished attic up above so I may just go that route. That will have to wait a while though since we're in the middle of a record heat wave and there's no way I'm crawling around in an insulated attic right now.
Post 12 made on Wednesday July 20, 2011 at 10:26
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On July 20, 2011 at 06:55, drewski300 said...
Most of the switches that have been recommended are simply a switch that can handle a motor load. It's either on or off.

I know Lutron doesn't make a Radio Ra "fan" controller. Every time I talk to the area rep I give him s#$t about it. Apparently there is one in development but they don't have a timeline.

The Wattstopper Miro I mentioned is an actual fan controller with presets and a raise/lower function.

Here is a link to the fan control and the control

Lutron makes wallbox fan speed controls, but only manually operated models.
If you have to use Lutron RadioRa, you would use a RadioRa switch in the circuit ahead of one of the manual controls. It's not the most elegant solution, but it is a solution. (besides, most people leave the fans on the same speed setting anyway)
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Post 13 made on Wednesday July 20, 2011 at 16:57
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On 1311159345, drewski300 said...
Most of the switches that have been recommended are simply a switch that can handle a motor load. It's either on or off.

Say what? Both of my links near the top of this thread are to Fan SPEED Controls. One is IR-based (Lutron link) and the other is Z-Wave (Leviton link)
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Post 14 made on Wednesday July 20, 2011 at 17:22
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On July 20, 2011 at 09:58, Jason Allan said...
Thanks everyone. I should have been more specific about the ceiling fan. What I meant was a ceiling fan/light combo to replace an existing light fixture. I know about solutions using the switch as the control point but the problem with that is as mr2channel pointed out - you can't independently control the fan and lights from the same switch. That's why I was hoping there might be a fan/light combo that actually had an IR receiver instead of RF. I knew RS-232 was a huge long shot but I had to ask :).

WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY SO?

[Link: lutron.com]

Stay out of the attic.

This Lutron Fan Speed/Light Dimmer Control fits in a one-gang box and uses the existing 14/2 Romex. The wall control comes in a boatload of colors.

A module fits inside the canopy of the fan.

The dual wall control is controlled at the wall switch or BY USING IR with the included remote control. Those commands can be "taught" to a universal remote.
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Post 15 made on Wednesday July 20, 2011 at 17:23
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On July 20, 2011 at 09:35, mr2channel said...
you could use UPB products to get it done and have 232....but to dim lights and control fan you would need to have it wired so the lights and fan are not on the same legs.

Or use this:

[Link: lutron.com]

And not have to run another wire from switch to fan. Control would be via IR.
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