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Need help finding grill covers
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Post 1 made on Tuesday January 6, 2004 at 17:19
BigDaddyMJ
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Hey guys, need some help finding cloth to cover the holes in a cabinet were the speakers are going. Any suggestions, can we buy it at a local fabric store???? Any and all help is appreciated and thanks in advance.
Post 2 made on Tuesday January 6, 2004 at 21:58
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FR701 fabric, it is the industry standard. Find Gilford of Main and call them, they can hook you up.

[Link: silentsource.com]
Post 3 made on Tuesday January 6, 2004 at 21:58
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Post 4 made on Tuesday January 6, 2004 at 22:09
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obiwan...

I am DYING to know what source your quoting that calls that fabric the industry standard!

Triad doesn't use it, B&W doesn't use it, in fact...I'm not sure how many speakers manufacturers do use it.

Now for acoustic paneling, that's a different story...but not speaker fabric, which is what he asked for. The fabric you reference is acoustical, and too porous for speaker or cabinet coverage use, as well as being pretty absorbtive (that's what acoustics panels and the fabric that covers them does).

Ohh, and Main(e) has an E in it.

AVDUDE...that's all commercial stuff, and CHEAP at that...Is that REALLY what you'd use?
OP | Post 5 made on Tuesday January 6, 2004 at 22:11
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Thanks Obiwan and AV, will check these sites out. Have a great year!!!!!!

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Post 6 made on Tuesday January 6, 2004 at 22:46
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Boytoy,

I didn't see you that you offered an alternative, you just questioned everything that others said. If you know so much about it, please enlighten us, and BigDaddy, as to what you would use.

Post 7 made on Tuesday January 6, 2004 at 23:22
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Well, for one if you want to buy a strong sound transparent fabric this is the most popular. It is used mostly by furniture makers and custom built in cabinet makers too. It has been in the business for ever man? I thought everyone knew that, sorry.

Most home owners wont want the slick black fabric as there only choice, this gives options. Transparent is transparent, I dont really see what the big deal is?

I would bet if you went into the Skywalker ranch and took a good look around you will see alot of it. It gets rebadged alot.
Post 8 made on Wednesday January 7, 2004 at 12:01
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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A good rule of thumb is that if you can hold the cloth up in front of you and see through it, it will probably pass high frequencies very well, so you can use it for grille cloth.

An easy cloth to work with is double-knit. I have seen this used at a couple of speaker manufacturers. Its great advantage is that because it actually stretches a bit, it is easier to make it look smooth than non-stretching fabric.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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Post 9 made on Wednesday January 7, 2004 at 16:33
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On 01/06/04 23:22, Obiwan-Kanewbi said...
I would bet if you went into the Skywalker ranch
and took a good look around you will see alot
of it. It gets rebadged alot.

You would lose that bet. I've been to THX training and can assure you that none of the fabric used to cover speakers is anything near the Guilford of Maine fabric you linked to.

Plenty of it on the Sound Absorbtion panels......

This Stuff....
[Link: speakerworks.net]

Is much better suited for covering speakers.
Post 10 made on Wednesday January 7, 2004 at 22:58
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Well I never said on the speakers @ the ranch? Behind a screen there is not much use for cloth? But the fact that it is used by most absorbtion pannel companies is a good testiment. Since the question was;
"Hey guys, need some help finding cloth to cover the holes in a cabinet were the speakers are going. Any suggestions, can we buy it at a local fabric store???? Any and all help is appreciated and thanks in advance."
One would consider that color choices and fabric textures would be a good thing for a cabinet ...

Also have you ever asked "Speakerworks" where they get there cloth from? I'll bet you will find they dont make it. Could be Gilford bolts :-) They are where most acoustic fabric comes from, it just gets re-badged.
Post 11 made on Thursday January 8, 2004 at 00:09
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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Obiwan, lighten up. If the guy wants to cover the holes where the speakers are going, he wants cloth that will transmit sound...because the speakers are going behind the cloth!

I'm with Impaqt. Why would you choose, on purpose, a cloth that seems to be a good idea to use as part of a sound-absorbing panel, and use it to NOT be in the way of sound, as on a grille cloth?

I would think that the Guilford cloth would be a waste of money if it did not add to the sound absorption properties of the panels. Thus it is not good grille cloth.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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Post 12 made on Thursday January 8, 2004 at 00:34
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I have a pretty substantial Guilford of Maine swatch book..... There is nothing in the book that resembles what speakerworks sells....

And no, I never asked them where they get it..... What you linked to is NOT intended to go in front of speakers. How many speaker manufacturers use fabric like that??? I've NEVER seen it. they ALL use fabric like the kind I linked to. If the Guilford was such a great cloth, it would be used in speakers off the assembly line.... You could certainly dress up a speaker some of the Guilford patterns and color choices...... CAT makes a nice chunk of change on custom speaker finishes.... And they are some of the best speakers in the world.... Haveing a book of a thousand grill choices would be cool.......

Oh well..... I think I'll bow out of this conversation now since the original question has been answered.
Post 13 made on Thursday January 8, 2004 at 10:32
Obiwan-Kanewbi
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My old klipsch has some LOL (Circa 1985)

But he did not want cloth for the speakers? He wanted it for the hole in the cabinet? RTFP

Did not aim to piss you off, sorry.
Post 14 made on Thursday January 8, 2004 at 11:19
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On 01/06/04 17:19, BigDaddyMJ said...
Hey guys, need some help finding cloth to cover
the holes in a cabinet were the speakers are going.
Post 15 made on Thursday January 8, 2004 at 13:43
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http://www.pacificfabrics.com/
If your are just looking for black, call 425-392-6696, they usualy have it for about $15.00 a lin-yard
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