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First of the BluRay's with HDMI only
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| Topic: | First of the BluRay's with HDMI only This thread has 16 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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| Post 1 made on Thursday April 22, 2010 at 12:42 |
tweetymp4 Select Member |
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Ordered up two Panasonic DMP-BD45's to install in a long time customer's home. This is an older couple that gets VERY confused by technology. We've managed to give them a system that they can manage. They really wanted to upgrage to bluray but did not want to be overloaded by cumbersome operation.
I wanted a bd player with discrete on/off and NO Netflix etc. (the start up screen with the Netflix/Blockbuster options would just confuse them) I chose the BD 45 because it filled both needs.
Did I mention that neither TV has HDMI? So we need to hook these up on component video.
BD45's arrive. HDMI, Composite and L/R audio.
Beware
Yes I know, I should not have assumed. I will no longer assume on this subject
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I'm Not an engineer, but I play one on TV.
My handle is Tweety but I have nothing to do with the organization of similar name. I just had a really big head as a child so folks called me tweety bird. |
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| Post 2 made on Thursday April 22, 2010 at 12:52 |
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Denon's 2500 was the same way.
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| Post 3 made on Thursday April 22, 2010 at 13:06 |
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We're in the process of testing some of the HDMI to component converters that are fully HDCP compliant.
The conversion obviously requires an extra step and piece of hardware in the design of your system, but it would solve the problem that seems to be causing so many worries lately. Another upside to this is it allows for a 1080p signal to pass through the component output of a matrix, which I know some clients seem to obsess about.
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| Post 4 made on Thursday April 22, 2010 at 16:00 |
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On April 22, 2010 at 13:06, Trent@AVocation said...
We're in the process of testing some of the HDMI to component converters that are fully HDCP compliant. The what? How is it compliant when it strips off the HDCP on the way out to component? Who is making them? I suspect it would be matter of time before they get revoked.
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| Post 5 made on Thursday April 22, 2010 at 16:02 |
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HDFury, they've been around for quite a while. Pretty sure they are on gen 3.
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| Post 6 made on Thursday April 22, 2010 at 16:11 |
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On April 22, 2010 at 13:06, Trent@AVocation said...
We're in the process of testing some of the HDMI to component converters that are fully HDCP compliant.
The conversion obviously requires an extra step and piece of hardware in the design of your system, but it would solve the problem that seems to be causing so many worries lately. Another upside to this is it allows for a 1080p signal to pass through the component output of a matrix, which I know some clients seem to obsess about. Trent, would love to post a story on your findings if you're game.
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| Post 7 made on Thursday April 22, 2010 at 16:37 |
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Wow, that's kinda shocking. It looks like it was a cost saving measure. The other players in the line all still have component. You may want to step up a model to the 65K.
Thanks for the warning...
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| Post 8 made on Thursday April 22, 2010 at 17:07 |
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On April 22, 2010 at 12:52, anyhomeneeds said...
Denon's 2500 was the same way. That was a transport model, no? Gotta read the specs brother!
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| OP | Post 9 made on Thursday April 22, 2010 at 17:10 |
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On April 22, 2010 at 16:37, jimstolz76 said...
Wow, that's kinda shocking. It looks like it was a cost saving measure. The other players in the line all still have component. You may want to step up a model to the 65K.
Thanks for the warning...
Right, but then it has NetFlix etc which would just confuse the little old lady of the house. Shot over to Cosco, got two basic Sonys for an unspeakably low price. Put them in, she can work them. Done.
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I'm Not an engineer, but I play one on TV.
My handle is Tweety but I have nothing to do with the organization of similar name. I just had a really big head as a child so folks called me tweety bird. |
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| Post 10 made on Thursday April 22, 2010 at 17:24 |
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Been using the latest HDFury one for a while in the UK, our Sat receivers dropped component 18 months ago.
Keene also do one to.
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| Post 11 made on Thursday April 22, 2010 at 18:24 |
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On April 22, 2010 at 16:00, amirm said...
The what? How is it compliant when it strips off the HDCP on the way out to component?
Who is making them? I suspect it would be matter of time before they get revoked. We're currently in discussions with the HDMI licensing group about a lot of the details because there's so much that's not entirely clear.
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| Post 12 made on Thursday April 22, 2010 at 18:25 |
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On April 22, 2010 at 16:11, juliejacobson said...
Trent, would love to post a story on your findings if you're game. Absolutely. I'll keep you posted as more info comes in.
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Trent Mulligan Just Add Power: Manufacturer - HD over IP solutions www.justaddpower.com | [Link: twitter.com] | [Link: facebook.com] |
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| Post 13 made on Thursday April 22, 2010 at 21:16 |
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Found this last week. Had me scratching my head for a little while. I had been told by some that it was impossible. [Link: dealextreme.com]
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| Post 14 made on Thursday April 22, 2010 at 22:54 |
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Certainly possible, just not allowed if you want to maintain your good standing with HDMI LLC.
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| Post 15 made on Friday April 23, 2010 at 14:08 |
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On April 22, 2010 at 22:54, Brentm said...
Certainly possible, just not allowed if you want to maintain your good standing with HDMI LLC. I'll add a +1 to this comment. The HDFury product (and similar items) violates the DMCA by removing digital copy protection from copyrighted materials. The prohibition on circumventing digital copy protection is not just an HDMI rule, it's a federal law.
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