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Is it legal to run Zip Cord In wall ?
This thread has 93 replies. Displaying posts 91 through 94.
Post 91 made on Monday September 21, 2009 at 17:27
ifor
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On September 20, 2009 at 21:23, GLS said...
It can be burning, or more importantly, smoldering, in the plenum and you may never know it until you wake up dead.

You can wake up dead?
Post 92 made on Tuesday September 22, 2009 at 04:33
2nd rick
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On September 20, 2009 at 20:35, theKevin said...
you know, as funny as this thread is, and as one poster even asked for a refund after reading it, i gotta say:
i have been doing this for almost a decade and i admit i never thought about the fact that 100W into 8Ohms means 28.28V, and that if you have a 140W amp powering 8Ohm speakers, you need CL3 rated speaker wire to be code compliant. Honestly, how many people here make that distinction between amps of different power?

On September 20, 2009 at 20:43, theKevin said...
 i realize my experience is relatively limed, especially compared to many posters here, but how many of you have ever seen or heard of an inspector checking the impedance and power of a low voltage installation?  i'm sure it's happened, but in the real world i don't think it happens 1% of the time, at least in the world of residential av.

They would not measure the installed components. The cabling is passed/failed before the systems are connected.

The differentiation is the type of systems which the cabling is intended to be used with.

Something that is KNOWN to be low-powered (like intercoms, burglar alarm sensors, or a doorbell chime) would classify as Class 2 and require cabling marked as CL-2 (or CL-3)...

Something like whole-house audio or an HT receiver is generally regarded as a Class 3 (regardless of whether it's above or slightly below the threshold) and require cabling marked as CL-3.

39,
Here is more clarification from Article 725 of the NEC Handbook for you to chew on...

This is in the context of interconnectivity between freestanding computer components, but you could draw the parallel to freestanding audio/video components.

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If the listed computer components are interconnected and all of the interconnected equipment is in close proximity, the wiring is considered an integral part of the equipment and therefore not subject to the requirements of Article 725.

If the wiring leaves the group of equipment to connect to other devices in the same room or elsewhere in the building, the wiring is considered "wiring within buildings" and is subject to the requirements of Article 725.

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So, you can use your "parallel wire" as speaker wire within a rack or stack of electronics, but not throughout the house.
Rick Murphy
Troy, MI
Post 93 made on Wednesday September 23, 2009 at 02:35
BMaxey
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I think the part about waking up dead is far more interesting.
Post 94 made on Wednesday September 23, 2009 at 15:18
2nd rick
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Exactly how dead??

Like Bubba Ho-Tep zombie dead??
Night of the Living Dead zombie dead??

or the little kid from Pet Sematary dead??



(cutest evil kid ever)
Rick Murphy
Troy, MI
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