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Speco DVR's and iPhones
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Post 31 made on Thursday September 2, 2010 at 13:49
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Good afternoon Lads and Gents! Ed the new guy here!

I see that a few of you have experience with the Speco DVRs. I was wondering if any of you are using the "send email attachment of video clip" to an email via your Speco Dvr. Since the Speco Dvrs don't send authenticated or ssl emails, you can't view them without finding a service that allows you to receive the non ssl emails. I am using a 8 channel TH series DVR, the main reason I bought this thing was for the emailing attachment feature and I just can't seem to get it to work.

I have tried Smpt2go.com and Lavabit.com, but can't figure them out. I'm not a pro, just know enough to get myself in trouble if you know what I mean :)

I appreciate any advice or thoughts of encouragement on getting my Speco Dvr to send me email attachments with video clips.

Thanks in advance everyone!

I have tried SMTP2Go and Lavabit.com
Post 32 made on Friday September 3, 2010 at 01:48
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While I totally understand your point to me the whole point to a dvr is for secure video. If any can integrate it easily then it can be hacked easily also. I am not trying to stick up for Speco; it is a PITA for us to integrate also if we choose to do it but from a security point of view I laugh at the stuff coming out these days especially the server based iphone apps that people think are connecting to their dvr which in reality is pumping their private video to servers back east and spitting back the jpg to the 'free' app. again this defeats the purpose of having security in a dvr.

That being said i totally agree with you if i think solely about integrating into our mobile phone cctv apps. We are going to do it but it will be an exception to the rest.

On September 1, 2010 at 10:44, BlackWire Designs said...
ya their "secure authorization" should be optional it makes it impossible to integrate their video feeds into control4. I am unsure if anyone with crestron or amx has integrated the feeds directly from the box. I am currently working on a Control4 app for their dvrs so people dont have to buy a 3rd party video encoder just to see their speco dvr on their touch screens..
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Post 33 made on Friday September 3, 2010 at 01:50
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Nuvico has a java client so i don't see why it wouldn't run on Safari. There's a free demo to try on their website. Check it out with Safari (real safari browser not iphone webkit browser) if you get a chance and let us know.

on our side we only support their Apex and Apex Lite. just FYI.

On September 1, 2010 at 15:48, Indigo said...
DDNS is not a static IP address.  ISP like to refresh their connection to modem/router often; hence modem/router is also refresh and new IP address is assigned.  That's the reason clients have to type in URL then DDNS will automatically redirect to current IP address on the modem/router.

If you use services like DYNDNS - very much like DVR DDNS but you have to pay for the subcribtion.  This allows you to book mark the page.

I've been strictly used GE and AverMedia DVR and they only supported their webviewer and control interface with IE7 or IE8.  Only able to view single camera at a time on other webbrowsers (i.e. Safari or Google).

Is Speco or Nuvico able to be controled via Safari?

Last edited by twilo123 on September 3, 2010 02:55.
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Post 34 made on Friday September 3, 2010 at 01:57
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they can just hit an icon on the iphone and make it work with our cctv app. just not for Speco yet. We will add them soon though.

For now you can use the video encoder workaround method already described.

On September 1, 2010 at 15:22, Ranger Home said...
My customers as well find it silly to have to type in urls and/or IP addresses that they dont comprehend what they are. "Why cant I just hit an icon on my iphone and it work", "what are these number and why do I have to do this".

I feel the pain. Yes, its super simple, but unfortunately, so are some customers.

That aside, Speco is our go to source.
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OP | Post 35 made on Friday September 3, 2010 at 10:00
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 I agree with Ranger Home, I don't understand why Sound.SD doesn't understand the annoyance of this.. Maybe his customers are Tech Geeks who don't mind, but the few of my clients where I have used the Speco DVRs for and have Macs also find it very annoying to have to type in the address each time they want to check the cameras.  I agree with them, maybe if you were able to save the name and only be asked to type in a password it wouldn't be as annoying.
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Post 36 made on Friday September 3, 2010 at 10:20
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On January 27, 2010 at 05:37, thomasamiller said...
I have been tracking which NVR/DVR support true integration via
ethernet/rs232. Dedicated Micros has stopped supporting it on their latest |versions. The two remaining NVR/DVR platforms that support proper robust |integration are:

ICrealtime (does not yet support ip cameras)
Milestone (insanely integratable, but it is software that runs on a windows PC).

If anybody else is aware, please let me know...

Panasonic has one of the most robust communications protocols I've seen, but it's going to cost a bit more than the others.
Post 37 made on Friday September 3, 2010 at 11:00
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On September 3, 2010 at 01:48, twilo123 said...
While I totally understand your point to me the whole point to a dvr is for secure video. If any can integrate it easily then it can be hacked easily also. I am not trying to stick up for Speco; it is a PITA for us to integrate also if we choose to do it but from a security point of view I laugh at the stuff coming out these days especially the server based iphone apps that people think are connecting to their dvr which in reality is pumping their private video to servers back east and spitting back the jpg to the 'free' app. again this defeats the purpose of having security in a dvr.

That being said i totally agree with you if i think solely about integrating into our mobile phone cctv apps. We are going to do it but it will be an exception to the rest.

I completely agree that security is a big deal. The biggest mistake i see everyone do is leave the user name and password to default and also use the default port for video with that said there should be an ability to get a simple video stream out of the box if you choose. Let US decide what level of security is needed and also the networks we use etc also play a big role in how security is done.
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Post 38 made on Saturday September 4, 2010 at 02:39
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that's just it as you said in the first part of your response; most end users aren't savy enough to make those decisions so they are doing it for them. they have to create things according to the largest common denominator (at least out of the box). If they left things wide open and everyone started getting hacked who do you think will get the class action lawsuit. The manufacturer of course so they have a duty to the customer but really they have a CYA factor involved.

part of giving the option leaves them more vulnerable. this could be from a reverse engineering part (information is key here. the more the better for hacking) or from end user screwing it up.

then they have to look at the target market for the device. there are way different rules and regulations when trying to sell cctv hardware to say a Casino or Government Institution then selling direct to consumer at fryes or something.

now from a developer point of view like you or I in most cases the manufacturer will work with you if you have a valid reason for 3rd party development. maybe you need a NDA or something like that but I find most of them are responsive to information requests when approached directly (and assuming they have the information. for instance in OEM/ODM situations many times the OEM company doesn't have the info).

On September 3, 2010 at 11:00, BlackWire Designs said...
I completely agree that security is a big deal. The biggest mistake i see everyone do is leave the user name and password to default and also use the default port for video with that said there should be an ability to get a simple video stream out of the box if you choose. Let US decide what level of security is needed and also the networks we use etc also play a big role in how security is done.
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Post 39 made on Sunday September 5, 2010 at 13:26
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On September 4, 2010 at 02:39, twilo123 said...
that's just it as you said in the first part of your response; most end users aren't savy enough to make those decisions so they are doing it for them. they have to create things according to the largest common denominator (at least out of the box). If they left things wide open and everyone started getting hacked who do you think will get the class action lawsuit. The manufacturer of course so they have a duty to the customer but really they have a CYA factor involved.

part of giving the option leaves them more vulnerable. this could be from a reverse engineering part (information is key here. the more the better for hacking) or from end user screwing it up.

then they have to look at the target market for the device. there are way different rules and regulations when trying to sell cctv hardware to say a Casino or Government Institution then selling direct to consumer at fryes or something.

now from a developer point of view like you or I in most cases the manufacturer will work with you if you have a valid reason for 3rd party development. maybe you need a NDA or something like that but I find most of them are responsive to information requests when approached directly (and assuming they have the information. for instance in OEM/ODM situations many times the OEM company doesn't have the info).

I actually spoke to them and didnt like the answers thus my frustration with them. I have the SDK on their DVRs and IP cameras..
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Post 40 made on Monday September 6, 2010 at 17:28
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On September 3, 2010 at 10:00, fonzanoon said...
 I agree with Ranger Home, I don't understand why Sound.SD doesn't understand the annoyance of this..

On August 31, 2010 at 22:00, SOUND.SD said...
It would be nice if the DDNS name auto-populated when you opened the JAVA |viewer
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Post 41 made on Wednesday March 2, 2011 at 20:44
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i know this thread is old but i just wanted to update it because we still have a lot of people coming to us off this thread regarding speco support on iphone, itouch, and ipad through our cctv app.

here is what we have so far:

We added support for Speco based on the sdk docs from them. At the time of testing they had a TH series on the website to demo against. This one is shown being used in our

It was our understanding that all T series would function the same way however people are starting to try with other T series such as TL and TN and we are finding that they do not behave in the same way. We are waiting to hear back from Speco regarding this however for now all i can say is the one we tested against is the TH series demo they have on their website and this model works as shown in the YouTube video above.

Above all else if you have our Apple app with v1.7 or higher test yourself 1st always or you can contact us and send us temp remote access and we will test and let you know.

Thanks,

Rob
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Post 42 made on Friday March 4, 2011 at 18:56
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this is very strange but we just had an integrator use the app successfully on a TL series today so i don't really understand the difference we had between the problem user and this one that works. we tested it ourselves and it is a TL and works fine. The only thing i can say is this TL is about a week old and we did not use the admin account (created a user account with remote web permissions).

update: we tested 3 TL series in a row just now with 2 having regular remote view permissions and 1 account having admin permissions even though it is not the admin account itself and the admin permission account had the issue. so long story short for Speco we support them on iphone, itouch, ipad but you cannot use the administrator account or any admin permission account or it won't work.

Last edited by twilo123 on March 4, 2011 19:08.
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