RC5200 Marantz remote. I must be missing it somewhere. I have read the manuals and scaned the forums. I want to be able to store an IR command which I can drop on to another button on any screen or in a new file. There are already codes stored for products "Receiver - Yamaha - RXV2092 - Power". How can I label them and store them. I have been to the add IR page and saved IR commands I just can't store them to the IR Libaray.

Thanks
Wlewis

Whoa, there, W !

Sounds like you are running, out of breath but talking fast anyway!

What do you want to do?

When I want to store an IR command, I make a button for it in a ccf that has no commands, download that ccf to the remote, learn the command, upload to the computer, and store it. I think that is what you want to do, but when you talk about "the IR Library," I think you are talking about software other than any version of ProntoEdit.

I have never seen the "add IR" page and I have programmed at least forty Prontos of different vintages. I have seen this kind of page in Lexicon and Crestron software....

If you are trying to use a feature of ProntoEdit that allows you to learn an IR command through the Pronto and right into the software, DO NOT DO THAT as it has been buggy and unreliable in every version of ProntoEdit I have heard of since the beginning. Maybe "add IR" is part of that, and since I have never used that part of ProntoEdit, I would never have seen it.

So, sit back, relax, gather your thoughts, try to give us some longer sentences if this answer does not hit your question on the head. And tell us just which commands you need for just which products. If you give us more and more detail, we can come closer and closer to getting the answer you need.

Ernie

Ernie,

Thanks for answering my question.

Let me tell you what I am doing, and then let me know where I need to go.

I create a button and double click on it. This brings up the Buttons Properties - Menu page. Then I click on the Set IR button. Then the Add IR page comes up. This page shows IR Selection - Devices: - Brands: and Code Set:. This is what I call an IR Library. It allows me to select Device type, the Brand, and then the Model number. I want to be able to store my devices in this menu area. I have built a button and selected IR Learn and then learned the IR command and labeled the button. I don't know how to save it into this Library so I can select it when I build a different remote. I don’t want to select an old remote program just to get a single button from it.

I sure hope this makes sense to you.

Thanks

You cannot save IR codes to the IR databse built into the remote or your edit software. Why would you want to do that when you can just copy and paste the code from the button?

I felt like there would be less time involved if I didn’t have to search through all of the Panels to find a specific button with the right IR code.

We use the RC5200 on alot of jobs using the same panel design just diffrent equipment.

Why dose the software have stored commands for product?

what a lot of us use are hidden panels that just contain IR codes on simple buttons. That way we can merge different devices with the UI and link it all together.

Don't you have to sort through all of your hidden panels just to find a channel up command for a Sony or Elite TV. It seems like it would take to long. How did they get the IR lirary in it now.

no, just use good names like "Sony TV" for a Sony TV :-) Also if you are building a library, you make one device per CCF, so it is a matter of merging a few CCFs, Also if you have something like a satellite, you put that part of the UI with the IR codes, that way all you do is add an icon for sat on the home page jump to the sat you just added and then fix a couple of buttons.


A good example might be easy theater by Dale. Look at his CCF

Is this how your suggestion works. For every piece of equipment I would build a panel with buttons for VCR-1, DVD ect.. The panel would be label Yamaha 3200. When I need a input command for a Yamaha 3200 I would copy the button on to the new panel. I understand that some commands are the same for other products in the line. For these functions I might have a panel that is label Yamaha S.S. Modes or Sony Input and Power.

Will this over load your ccf memory.

no.

look at one I created to show some stuff

and Dale's easy theater

Let me read through it. It looks like you are hiding your IR pages. I am not sure what this has to do with building an IR Library. But let me read it. Have you programmed AMX or a Niles Intellicontroller? This might help my question.

No. You have understood what I and Dale and many others have done. That is part 1)

part 2) these hidden IR panels with all the codes for one device can be saved separately (or if you only use one UI with the UI buttons.

3) to create a new CCF merge UI CCF with IR CCFs and then link it all together and you are done.

My CCF uses two layers (IR panels and UI) Dales uses three layers (IR panels UI and for lack of a better word, handshake layer) The Handshake is used to make the more complex but better looking UI more easily configurable (you add a IR panel and link it to the handshake panels that have the same buttons as the IR panels).


Then your Hard drive (or wherever else you save your files) become the IR DB

Your are saving hidden IR files on a cookie cutter design. These Hidden IR files correspond to a Model #. Then you are connecting these Hidden Panels to a button page, which never changes. Only the Hidden IR panel’s change according to the product you are using.

now you are getting close to the idea

W,
the difference I see between what we are talking about doing and what you first asked about is that the IR library in the 5200 is not changeable, so we build an IR library outside the remote for other devices.

As Anthony says, you make several ccfs, each for just one device, then merge them together to suit your list of components. The cookie cutter idea works when you have different, say, CD players, but you use the same artwork for each...with modifications due to slight differences from model to model. The most obvious differences you run across are how they handle digits above ten.

I have a subdirectory named Products, with subs Panasonic, Marantz, Sony, Yamaha, etc.

I also make a point of having buttons really small on the reference page so I can get all the commands in fewer pages.