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Favorite Blue Ray Player
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Post 16 made on Sunday November 23, 2008 at 16:53
mrtristan
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On November 22, 2008 at 22:14, Benford AV said...
I just installed a Sharp 21 BD player and I am going to
try to return it to my disty because I hate it. Slower
than hell and no discretes. I'll try to get a Panny.

I'm not too thrilled about this player either but I found a discrete ON here that works. ON followed by POWER after 10 seconds works well to turn off.

Also you can get it to play pretty quickly when you turn on the quick start feature in the setup menu.
Post 17 made on Sunday November 23, 2008 at 18:21
Vincent Delpino
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On November 23, 2008 at 12:38, motech said...
i wonder how long it will be before blu ray fades . .
i know they are being pushed heavily by sony etc . .

but its just a matter of time till downloadable digital
media (apple tv, vudu, netflix, etc) quality is just
as good as blu ray.

The statement above is on par with the rest of your ignorant posts. None of those solutions come near blue ray quality, and I am not a believer in blue ray. The only thing that impresses me about blue ray is the improvement in sound quality. While I agree everything will eventually be download able, that is not likely to happen in our lifetime.
Post 18 made on Sunday November 23, 2008 at 18:52
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While I agree everything will eventually be download able, that is not likely to happen in our lifetime.

I don't know how old you or motech actualy are, and I am not as convinced as some others that BD is the last physical format, but I am 38 now and my guess is that before I die DL could look as good as BD and the world could have gone to DL. Yup, at the ripe old age of 138 (due to medical advancement) I am guessing I will be here reading Motech's post " You see I was right told you in time DL will be as good as BR and would supplant it, I might have eventualy bought Blu-ray, UV-ray, rainbow-ray, Krystal-pro ... and now here we are like I said and DL is here."
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Post 19 made on Sunday November 23, 2008 at 22:39
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guys,

i said,
its a matter of time before streaming or digital media in general is as good of quality as blu ray.
i did not say that it is yet (though dish ultra or whatever its called is very close so i hear).

what i was tring to say is that its a matter of time before the quality between both formats are the same or better.

the future of the disc is fading.

blu ray is making a huge push,
and will not die soon,
but it will die waaaay quicker then dvd did (well its not dead yet . . but you know . . )


if you dont see the future as being without physical media,
then thats fine. time will tell.

im 26.
believe it or not.
that gives me an edge in this world.
technology is not for the old minded.
analog audio and video might be. .

but being able to understand technology
and where its heading is what i understand and know.

if you call me ignorant,
you cant hold a decent conversation.

insulting people is as advanced as my 3 year old nephew.
Post 20 made on Sunday November 23, 2008 at 22:46
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On November 23, 2008 at 18:21, Vincent Delpino said...
The statement above is on par with the rest of your ignorant
posts. None of those solutions come near blue ray quality,
and I am not a believer in blue ray. The only thing that
impresses me about blue ray is the improvement in sound
quality. While I agree everything will eventually be download
able, that is not likely to happen in our lifetime.

are you 98?
because it will be the way the majority of our population gets movies at home within 5 years easy.

most families already use on demand from cable company more then anything else.
and thats a form of digital download.
Post 21 made on Sunday November 23, 2008 at 23:31
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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Vincent,
Seriously, you need to find a way to chill. It can't feel that good to you, and it can't be good for your body and soul, for you to write the way you have been doing. motech, you too!

On November 23, 2008 at 22:39, motech said...
technology is not for the old minded.
analog audio and video might be.

Now this totally cracks me up. The old-minded might be the guys who understand analog, and you want to just deal with digital. You're too young to know that when digital audio first came out and digital designers started going at it full steam, they ran into a brick wall as soon as they tried to put a signal on a wire. Once there's a wire -- and that includes connections between transistors inside an IC -- once there's a wire, you have to be an analog engineer to get the signal where it's going.

You'd better hope we keep some analog guys around, or your bits will just sit there on the plastic.
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Post 22 made on Sunday November 23, 2008 at 23:43
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you are right,
we couldnt get anywhere without certain previous technologies,
or certain experts in respective fields ..

but people must have the ability to look forward.
im not saying to skip on perfectly working methods.

im saying to be as close minded as to dismiss what the future may hold in the near future.
sounds like a friend i had a few years ago who told me that camera phones will never be as good as regular cameras. (not talking about slr's)

just crazy.
within a few years, the low end camera biz will be virtually gone
as all camera phones will be good enough in that field.

and all phones will come with them.
i saw a pre paid motorola cell phone in wall mart this weekend
with a color screen, really impressive build . . for $20!

no contract.

how could you not think that things will change in certain directions.

did you not watch what happened with MP3's?
sure some people still like to have cd's or records.
but they are of the older crowd. and still rare in that crowd.

the ipod is as huge as it is because its so easy to have a large collection that you can have anywhere.

why not the same with movies?

and the funny thing is,
mp3's etc are no where near as good as cd quality,
and no one gives a sh!t . . because its so easy.

the same will happen with movies.
Post 23 made on Monday November 24, 2008 at 01:39
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Well it’s time to get comfy again and turn on your Xbox 360. On Nov. 19, all movies from your Netflix instant watch queue will be instantly accessible and playable on your Xbox 360. All Xbox LIVE Gold members with a Netflix Unlimited subscription will be able to instantly watch more than 12,000 movies from the Netflix library (US Only).



On top of that, you can kiss driving to the video rental store goodbye forever. Xbox LIVE Video Marketplace offers more than 20,000 pieces of HD and standard definition content, and will have a new sleek look and feel that makes you feel like you’re browsing shelves right in your own living room. You’ll be able to see hi-res box art for all the movies and TV shows you love, plus read all the information that would usually be on the back of the DVD box.

In total, when the New Xbox Experience launches, you will have a massive library of more than 30,000 HD and standard movies and TV episodes at your fingertips. That’s pretty amazing –and another great excuse to stay in for the night.
Post 24 made on Monday November 24, 2008 at 02:04
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the ipod is as huge as it is because its so easy to have
a large collection that you can have anywhere.

why not the same with movies?

and the funny thing is,

mp3's etc are no where near as good as cd quality,

and no one gives a sh!t . . because its so easy.

the same will happen with movies.

With MP3's most people cannot hear the difference between a song at 320kb/sec and the original CD.
For movies, almost everyone I know can see the difference between SD and HD. I think it may happen if you can get HD in smaller files but not to the extent of the MP3.
Post 25 made on Monday November 24, 2008 at 02:10
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For Internet-based HD digital downloads to replace BD, the ISPs are going to have to get on board with high-bandwidth downloads.

Look at Comcast introducing 250gb per month limits. Just wait till they get bold and decide to downgrade to the current Canadian limits (60 to 100gb max). Just how many BD-quality HD movies do you think you can get into 60gb per month - not counting all your normal internet usage?

And if they're not BD quality with high-bitrate video and uncompressed audio... well then I don't want them.
Post 26 made on Monday November 24, 2008 at 07:31
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Daniel,

Good point. I'm sure that other isp's will follow Comcast's lead. Basically, you're looking at extra isp fees for HD downloading if you're a big movie watcher.
Post 27 made on Monday November 24, 2008 at 08:40
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Im shocked to see support for streaming content here.
Compression, Compression, Compression.
It's crap. absolute rubbish.
And we as an industry should steer people clear of it.
We have a responsibility to educate. To show people the drastic differance between MP3's (even at 320) at the real deal.
Huge diff. and clearly audible on a good system.
Play a Blu ray.. and swith between the Dolby- D track, and the Tru-HD track. Plain as day. Streaming will offer low bit-rate Dolby D at best for years. Sure streaming will be great when the network gets fast enough. But that will take years.
Post 28 made on Monday November 24, 2008 at 09:46
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the new xbox interface is a great example . .


and in the future,
codecs will get better,
and bandwidth will increase.


fios is making a nice little presence in the market,
which will hopefully shake up the cable companies.


i guess time will tell . .
Post 29 made on Monday November 24, 2008 at 11:09
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On November 24, 2008 at 02:10, Daniel Tonks said...
For Internet-based HD digital downloads to replace BD,
the ISPs are going to have to get on board with high-bandwidth
downloads.

Look at Comcast introducing 250gb per month limits. Just
wait till they get bold and decide to downgrade to the
current Canadian limits (60 to 100gb max). Just how many
BD-quality HD movies do you think you can get into 60gb
per month - not counting all your normal internet usage?

And if they're not BD quality with high-bitrate video
and uncompressed audio... well then I don't want them.

I heartily agree. MANY people are telling me that they are not buying into Blu-Ray becuse downloading will be 'the wave of the future'. I keep reminding them that most areas don't have adequate infrastructure to support an entire neighborhood streaming the latest flick.

As far as a favorite goes (the ORIGINAL topic!) - I don't really have one yet. I really like my personal Marantz BD8002 player, but the lack of a network jack is a bit odd. Especially for a $2000 player.
Blue Rhythm Audio/Video
Post 30 made on Monday November 24, 2008 at 19:55
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On November 24, 2008 at 02:10, Daniel Tonks said...
For Internet-based HD digital downloads to replace BD,
the ISPs are going to have to get on board with high-bandwidth
downloads.

Look at Comcast introducing 250gb per month limits. Just
wait till they get bold and decide to downgrade to the
current Canadian limits (60 to 100gb max). Just how many
BD-quality HD movies do you think you can get into 60gb
per month - not counting all your normal internet usage?

And if they're not BD quality with high-bitrate video
and uncompressed audio... well then I don't want them.

I agree.

My guess is that what the ISPs would really like is to be able to offer HD movies themselves - rent from them and you get high speed to download. Rent elsewhere and then you'll pay $$$ for the required speed. This is where you see the good and the bad of the free market. If the pipeline and the content are both from the same provider they've got you screwed. I'd rather see a government-backed high-speed (really high, high-speed) infrastructure put in place across the country and then the end user can connect to whichever content provider offers the selection and quality that the customer wants to pay for. NetFlix, iTunes, or what-have-you.
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