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| Topic: | Mounting volume controller outside on the deck This thread has 16 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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| Post 1 made on Friday June 20, 2003 at 10:45 |
aero993 Long Time Member |
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Question, I would like to mount a volume controller outside on the deck. The volume controller that I'm using hits the back of every single gang outdoor box that I tried at Lowes. I'm using the following volume controller, Audioplex VC200DIOPT 200W. Also, the code calls for a see thru cover, I forget the exact name. Any tips will be greatly appreciated.
Anthony
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| Post 2 made on Friday June 20, 2003 at 11:48 |
Impaqt RC Moderator |
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AudioPlex also makes an outdoor cover for that VC.
Water Resistant Covers:
WP3703 for Single Gang and WP1020 for dual gang
WaterProof covers:
WTG100-CV for Single Gang and WTG200-CV for Dual
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| Post 3 made on Friday June 20, 2003 at 18:45 |
THXRick Long Time Member |
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Aero Try an extension ring for the box. It may save you the time of getting the audioplex in. I have used the standard box with ext. and various outdoor covers for years. You are still a little tight but it will work..
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| Post 4 made on Friday June 20, 2003 at 23:21 |
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If he's worried about Codes, what you describe is not within code. Electrical boxes (Whether or not they have real 120V electrical in them) cannot be mouted exposed outside.
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| Post 5 made on Friday June 20, 2003 at 23:49 |
Larry Fine Loyal Member |
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Not so. There are all kinds of outdoor installations. Look at above-ground pools, receptacles, lighting, etc. As long as the enclosures are rated for outdoor use, and installed properly, they're okay to use. I've used weatherproof-while-in-use boxes for both line-voltage and low-voltage applications, even fan-speed controls. Larry www.fineelectricco.com
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| Post 6 made on Saturday June 21, 2003 at 01:13 |
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Now, I'm no electrician, but I have not seen sealed box that takes a standard extension ring.... Certainly not one might find at Lowes...
So are you saying a standard electrical box with Counduit Knock outs can be mounted out in the elements with 120V power in them?
Keep in mind that I'm in chicago where we have some of the toughest residential electrical codes in the country, but I cant begin to think that would meet any kind of electrical code.... of course, It still amazes me when I see romex run thoughout a new construction when I;m working over the Indiana border....
Imp
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| Post 7 made on Saturday June 21, 2003 at 11:21 |
Larry Fine Loyal Member |
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On 06/21/03 01:13, Impaqt said...
So are you saying a standard electrical box with
Counduit Knock outs can be mounted out in the
elements with 120V power in them? No, I'm saying that weatherproof boxes may be used outdoors with 120V power in them. There must be gaskets between mating surfaces if the construction doesn't provide rain-tightness. Larry www.fineelectricco.com
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| Post 8 made on Saturday June 21, 2003 at 13:05 |
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so Larry is there an outdoor extension ring? I need something like this. I have lighting and outlets in my backyard and the first outlet is GFCI and it is too darn cramped in a standard box and an extra inch or so would be perfect. I never even thought of an extension ring. let me know.
also another quick question for you, that same GFCI pops after about 4 hours and I have to reset it and sometimes it takes like three or four resets before it stays on and then it will pop again a few hours later. Is this most likely a bad GFCI or a short somewhere down the line. I don't think it could be overloaded. it has some low-voltage scenery lighting plugged to it, to 40w lights, and a 14 light xmas light strand. oh and a small fountain pump.
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| Post 9 made on Saturday June 21, 2003 at 21:34 |
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Eric, to start at the end, my bet is the fountain pump is the culprit. Use a process of elimination, and unplug one item at a time, and see which one is causing the pop. Of course, testing with nothing at all plugged in will determine if the GFCI receptacle itself is malfunctioning. If water gets in the box, it could trip, too. By the way, a short would trip the breaker, not the GFCI. There are extension rings for flush-mounted one- and two-gang boxes. I'll have to go on a safari and see if I can find plastic ones. Are you using FS-type boxes? Larry www.fineelectricco.com
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| Post 10 made on Saturday June 21, 2003 at 22:19 |
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Okay, my first search found this site. Check out page 47 for the extension rings, and page 48 for gaskets, in case you don't have enough. Each mating requires one. On p. 47, item #3651 is the single-gang extension ring, which adds 1" of depth. On p. 48, gasket #37932 in figure no. 6 (which shows the different configs the same gasket can be used for) is the single-gang gasket. Larry www.fineelectricco.com
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| Post 11 made on Saturday June 21, 2003 at 22:35 |
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| Post 12 made on Monday June 23, 2003 at 12:53 |
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thats exactly what I need thanks.
As for FS type box, I'm not sure what that is. I hav ethe case aluminum boxes with seals. The stuff at Home Depot.
Does home depot or Lowes usually carry the extension rings?
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| Post 13 made on Thursday June 26, 2003 at 01:38 |
Ernie Bornn-Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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There are metal outdoor boxes here in CA in all the OSH and Home Despots. The boxes are aluminum castings and only come in gray. They have a metal 1" extension that comes with a gasket. It looks klugey but it works.
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| OP | Post 14 made on Thursday June 26, 2003 at 16:25 |
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Lowes or Homedepot in my area don't carry them. I went to an electrical place and purchased them. It was $7 for the box and $7 for the extension. I thought the prices were a bit much, but I didn't want to wait. I bet I'll wait the next time.
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| Post 15 made on Thursday June 26, 2003 at 23:40 |
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Niles has a VC already in a box, it doesn't need a cover. [Link: nilesaudio.com]
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