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Mounting a flat screen above Stacked Stone fireplace ?
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Post 1 made on Tuesday March 18, 2008 at 14:04
fearless6960004
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Hello ,

New member here , nice to meet you all and I need some assistance .
I've installed some five 50" Plasma TV's on stacked stone before , but
I have a customer who wants to go with something bigger 60" + and he wants it above his Stacked stone fireplace . Now I know it's tough to make holes in the stone and to make the bracket level but I've always managed somehow in the past . This one is a little different , the stones are not even , if you know what I mean , some stones in the middle are sticking out a little bit more than the others and thats exactly where the bracket is gonna go . Should I try with a chisel or should I contact the guys who installed the stone ?
Also being 60" + the TV is gonna be heavy , what kind of support ? Special anchors or bolts ? I don't trust the Bolts provided with the Sanus bracket to hold 180lb TV especially if some are in the mortar between the stones .
Have any of you guys used the motorized brackets before ? They look cool .

Lastly the room has a lots of windows , a lot of ambient light during the day so I'm wondering if I should recommend Plasma or LCD . I love Plasma but with all those windows I don't want the Customer complaining after the Install.
The TV will be tilted so that will help with the reflections a little bit .
For LCD I'm looking at the SHARP LC-65SE94U or maybe NUVision , are they good ? They cost like $ 7 000.00 + so for that money I can get top of the line Plasma .
Thanks in advance !
Post 2 made on Tuesday March 18, 2008 at 18:23
cb1
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with all those questions, hire a pro!
why have a nice system if you cant operate it, program the remote the right way the FIRST time!
Post 3 made on Tuesday March 18, 2008 at 19:23
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i have run in to this several times in the past and it has been difficult every time. leveling the stone is the best option for the mount. it needs to be level because if not it will look terrible from the side. if you are not comfortable doing the chiseling, it is understood, must of us are ot stonemasons. however it is not that hard to do properly, just take your time and be careful.
i use 1/2 inch anchors , usually 4-6" long depending on the stone. you need to make sure that all is level and centered , BEFORE, you drill.
as for the motorized mounts, the omnimount motion52 is awesome. it is as quiet if not quieter than a lutron low voltage shade and is very good about hitting its mark when going to a preset. i was actually able to program a macro that included going to home position and other presets in a ( deep breath) harmony 670. and no i'm not crazy, i said harmony 670 (per customer request i promise).
as for t.v. selection, do your research, that is a delicate balance between glare and picture quality. i'm not gonna get into that discussion.

and as for the responce by cb1: i totally agree!! however ; if you understand your limitations and know how to say "i don't know", then i say go for it. i have personnaly learned a lot in my career by just measuring twice and cutting once, and going for it. remember- it is your reputation (and insurance) on the line!!

Good luck!!
Steven Brawner
ISF, HAA, Lutron, CEDIA certified
ProAudio GA www.ProAudioGA.com
Post 4 made on Tuesday March 18, 2008 at 21:12
davenport
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..I also feel that you should probably hire a pro.
Post 5 made on Tuesday March 18, 2008 at 22:07
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I'd go for an LCD just for the difference in weight.

CJ
I'm not a pro
Post 6 made on Tuesday March 18, 2008 at 22:42
Theater Magic installs
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On March 18, 2008 at 18:23, cb1 said...
with all those questions, hire a pro!

Sounds like he is already an installer, but just cause he some questions, as expected the usual suspects come out and flame him!

Of course, now I'm gonna get flamed for encouraging a little civility.

Last edited by Theater Magic installs on March 19, 2008 01:15.
My other remote is...a model aircraft transmitter!
Post 7 made on Tuesday March 18, 2008 at 22:58
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On March 18, 2008 at 14:04, fearless6960004 said...
I've installed some five 50" Plasma TV's on
stacked stone before , but
I have a customer who wants to go with something
bigger 60" + and he wants it above his Stacked stone
fireplace .

60"+ LCD definitely weighted much lighter than 50" plasma. It's time to put crack pipe of yours down and give yourself a moment to think. Motorized mount installed over the fireplace? Bruce Sterling was not even hallucinate to this level.
Post 8 made on Tuesday March 18, 2008 at 23:44
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I would bust out the 4" grinder with a diamond blade, and cut the stone Where I see fit. Also agree on LCD, for the wieght and also the glare will not be as bad. Make sure you get stud, or some huge butterfly anchors.



wait a minute.... this guy is not an installer!



audioslayve
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Ps, you can't fix stupid
Post 9 made on Wednesday March 19, 2008 at 01:28
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We did a 60" on a rock fireplace, We worked with the Wood guy/Cabinet guy who also works with metal and created a nice looking setup in a room with lots of windows



The letters T and G are very close to each other on a keyboard. This recently became all too apparent to me and consequently I will never be ending a work email with the phrase "Regards" again.
Post 10 made on Wednesday March 19, 2008 at 01:51
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I did a few of these. The method that worked best for me was getting 3/8" threaded rod and cutting it into 8 - 8" pieces. Found my reference points for the bracket and drilled holes for the threaded rod sections. I injected masons glue/epoxy into the holes and put a bit on the rod sections that I inserted into the stones. You'll learn to keep the gluing to a min. Too much clogs your threads. Took my lunch break. The glue was like a bondo mix. Took 20 min to set. Now, with my anchors in place I would have to 'level' the surface. If I was on an uneven surface, I would stack 3/8" fender washers on the anchors that needed them to level the surface. The bracket would be put on the anchors, and be bolted down. Keep in mind that this looks best when pre-wired so the wires are concealed. If it's an existing/retro job, The pictures above explain what I would do too. Getting a cabinet guy in to help out rarely fails.
-G.
Post 11 made on Wednesday March 19, 2008 at 01:56
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Nicely done Glack!
Post 12 made on Wednesday March 19, 2008 at 09:25
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Thanks, The Mantle has cooling fans in ot to exhaust the warm air from the plasma, Those are artisons on either side for LCR audio
The letters T and G are very close to each other on a keyboard. This recently became all too apparent to me and consequently I will never be ending a work email with the phrase "Regards" again.
Post 13 made on Wednesday March 19, 2008 at 09:39
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Very nice work, Glack. I used those Artisons speakes once, they initially cost more than the panel that H/O moved from his previous home. So he agreed to bump up a new, nicer panel.

Fearless, I'd suggest H/O to have furniture people to design a set of motorized seats instead....jk :}
Post 14 made on Wednesday March 19, 2008 at 11:26
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Use spacers to equal he depth of the rock. Trim spacers to be flat and even, use mortar anchors in the mortar and put ply on top of the spacers bolted through to the mortar anchors. Mount display bolted to the ply. Fill or trim edges of under structure.
Post 15 made on Wednesday March 19, 2008 at 16:25
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On March 18, 2008 at 22:42, Theater Magic installs said...
Sounds like he is already an installer, but just cause
he some questions, as expected the usual suspects come
out and flame him!

Of course, now I'm gonna get flamed for encouraging a
little civility.

come on, you really think that if he was an installer that had "installed some five 50" Plasma TV's on stacked stone before " he would ask some of those questions? Anyway, I was just trying to save him from hurting something.

Glackowitz, that install looks great. I like to use the Artison Masterpiece above fireplaces also. I really like how you boxed in sides to clean up the installation. It looks like the cabinet guy was pretty talented too.
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