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Post 1 made on Thursday March 6, 2008 at 08:05
Ron 34238
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Does anyone know if the IC2 has a press/hold function like the original Intellicontrol. It sure would be nice to have.
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Post 2 made on Thursday March 6, 2008 at 08:19
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I'll know week after next...as we will be going to training...
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Post 3 made on Thursday March 6, 2008 at 09:19
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been to the training, and to the best of my memory, it does not.
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OP | Post 4 made on Thursday March 6, 2008 at 09:25
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I'll look forward to your response.

So far, the IC2 has two less master keys, which I can live with. However the press/hold function was real nice, especially for using one master key for a DVD and a CD. All one needed to do was to press/hold the master key to shut off the display when in CD mode.

Last edited by Ron 34238 on March 6, 2008 12:04.
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Post 5 made on Thursday March 6, 2008 at 09:37
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I will be programming one tomorrow. I will let all know how it goes.
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Post 6 made on Thursday March 6, 2008 at 12:11
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The iC2 system does not have Press & Hold feature on Master Keys
The avaerage person (who has not been told) doesn't find Press & Hold intuative.
In fact give a customer a brand new remote and don't tell him how to operate the remote and you MIGHT find that they will press and hold the Master Key because it is new to him. We didn't want to give a customer buttons that do something when you "press it this way" and something different when "you press it this way"
Post 7 made on Thursday March 6, 2008 at 12:52
Vincent Delpino
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SO who are you to decide what people will do and not do. Give someone a remote and not tell them what to do? What planet are you on? Then who's fault is it if they hold the button? There are many ways press and hold is useful and in fact quite intuitive if the programming is consistent. I am glad you decided that you would not give my clients multiple ways to use the same component. No MR. Smith if you want to use the cable box for just music then get up and turn the TV off manually. The designers of this remote figured you were too stupid to remember how to shut off just the display. Remove the functionality that people have gotten used to? Good call genius.
OP | Post 8 made on Thursday March 6, 2008 at 20:11
Ron 34238
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Ken, would it be possible to add Press & Hold as an upgrade some time in the future?
Ron
OP | Post 9 made on Saturday March 8, 2008 at 10:29
Ron 34238
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Anyone having good luck importing LIN files from the Intellifile II? It's inconsistent for me. When Quick Config looks like it has the file, and the commands have the check mark, when you go into actually trying to program function keys, the drop down box for the source device is not complete. I have found that I have to delete the imported LIN file and relearn the commands using Quick Config.

Anyone else run into this?
Ron
Post 10 made on Saturday March 8, 2008 at 14:28
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I am not familiar with IC2, I would like to see what all the fuss is about. I'm thinking about going to training next week.

From what little I have seen online and advertised the big hard-key only remote looks like it's 20 years old. As with most Niles products, I'm sure it is reliable, robust and will last for decades.
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Post 11 made on Monday March 10, 2008 at 10:36
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On March 8, 2008 at 10:29, Ron 34238 said...
Anyone having good luck importing LIN files from the Intellifile
II? It's inconsistent for me. When Quick Config looks
like it has the file, and the commands have the check
mark, when you go into actually trying to program function
keys, the drop down box for the source device is not complete.
I have found that I have to delete the imported LIN file
and relearn the commands using Quick Config.

Anyone else run into this?

Not specifically - but I did have to scroll all the way down to the bottom to find the commands that had names that weren't on the list... Call me old fashioned, but I preferred the old IR system. I'll get used to it, I just liked the library page... ;)
Post 12 made on Monday March 10, 2008 at 11:01
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Went to IC2 training last week with a view to becoming a Niles dealer, we currently are not. I went hoping that this would be a great addition to our product line but I have to say I was a little disappointed in the remote. (The HT-MSU was cool though.)

The problem copying LIN files was discussed. Trainer mentioned that some older codes will not transfer correctly as they may have been "learnt differently". I didn't ask further as I didn't think it important to me.

I did ask about having multiple surround modes and the suggested solution was to program a master key then hit a pre-programmed number, i.e. 1 for dolby, 2 for THX etc. It seems to me that by the time your done with surround modes, favorite channels etc. you'd need an entire reference book for the remote. I don't get how that is more user friendly but push and hold isn't?

And this was suposed to be a remote for the baby-boomer generation.....?
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Post 13 made on Monday March 10, 2008 at 12:32
Vincent Delpino
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On March 10, 2008 at 11:01, Terrmul said...
I did ask about having multiple surround modes and the
suggested solution was to program a master key then hit
a pre-programmed number, i.e. 1 for dolby, 2 for THX etc.
It seems to me that by the time your done with surround
modes, favorite channels etc. you'd need an entire reference
book for the remote. I don't get how that is more user
friendly but push and hold isn't?

This makes me laugh! It is just another product made by a bunch of people sitting around a table with no real world experience. Sure the IC was revolutionary, but things have changed tremendously since then. To offer no real customization on a supposedly custom product is wack. Then to take away press and hold because some genius thinks it is confusing is even more wack. I just dont get it. I wonder if it connects to a charging station via an hdmi connector?
OP | Post 14 made on Monday March 10, 2008 at 16:00
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On March 10, 2008 at 11:01, Terrmul said...
| The problem copying LIN files was discussed. Trainer mentioned
that some older codes will not transfer correctly as they
may have been "learnt differently". I didn't ask further
as I didn't think it important to me.

I guess all my LIN files must be "older codes" because I can't recall any of them transferring properly. The good part, though, is that if you have the remotes handy, learning them again is much quicker, particularly with the "Learn to End" and the female audio prompt for the next code.

All remotes have their pluses and minuses. What I like about Niles is that it works, and works very well, and is great for those that like hard buttons. That's what allowed the original Intellicontrol to maintain such a long product life. And for those that don't want or need the fancy new buttons, the original Intellicontrol works just fine.
Ron
Post 15 made on Saturday March 15, 2008 at 02:14
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On March 10, 2008 at 12:32, Vincent Delpino said...
This makes me laugh! It is just another product made by
a bunch of people sitting around a table with no real
world experience. Sure the IC was revolutionary, but things
have changed tremendously since then. To offer no real
customization on a supposedly custom product is wack.
Then to take away press and hold because some genius thinks
it is confusing is even more wack. I just dont get it.
I wonder if it connects to a charging station via an hdmi
connector?

That's not a very friendly comment, who pissed in your cornflakes? The remote has its place, just not for you..........obviously. Maybe I should sell one to your parents.
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