????? Like a real calibration? ISF? SENCORE? You are kidding right? Why would you not just put that money into a real TV? Do you balance and blueprint Yugo engines as well?
These 50" VISIOs are $1k????

Crap is crap and anyone willing to buy it, gets what they deserve. If its OK for them............then let em have it. When, not if, they get burned, they will learn from their mistakes......like most of us did.

More or less. fishnrib hasn't written in a few days, so maybe he's gone. I was just trying to get him to reveal whether he knew what I was talking about. If he didnt, that would tell a lot about what he expected or even knew to expect. Or hope for!

Whenever the discussion of torch mode comes up, I like to mention that I think the color should be set below the point where reds bleed off the screen and onto the floor. The only similar simile I can think of for green would have to do with slime, and it's been too many years since Ghostbusters for that image to really resonate with people.

Stop drinking your own koolaid.

My guess is you have never owned any highend equipment yourself. You have only seen what you push on your clients.

I'm done with you

Thanks for the backup “Cooldude”


After I first hooked up the Vizio all the stations looked worse than my old 32" JVC 850 line resolution SD TV. I fiddled with some picture settings and couldn't get it to look any better so I set it back to the factory settings. After I pulled the plug and waited for about 10 minutes I to power it up and try again they all looked good. Even the SD channels look better than my JVC with the factory settings. Haven't changed any of the factory settings since. All the colors look natural and I am really enjoying those HD shows from HBO, Discovery HD, and PBS.

I did notice something that you guys recommend not using HDMI over Composite connections. I am getting my picture through a Cox HD Cable Box with HDMI input. I have 2 DVD players hooked up. One with HDMI from my Surround Sound and the other one a regular DVD player with Composite. The Composite does look sharper than the HDMI one with my recorded DVD's. I copied a movie twice and paused both of them at the same spot and placed them side by side in POP and could see the difference. I play all my recorded DVD's in the composite player and all my bought DVD's in the Surround Sound one. All the bought DVD's look almost as good as the HD HBO movies.

Not using HDMI instead of composite? Sorry, you've got no clue what you're talking about.

Your right I don't have much of a clue about what I am talking about. I just looked in the store yesterday and saw that I ment component instead of composite. This link talks about why you guys don't like HDMI but it works fine for me along with component.

[Link: remotecentral.com]

I use composite for my VCR.

Have a nice day

If you're done, you won't see this. Too bad. Your other post shows you have a pretty good dose of the same koolaid as well as a pretty balanced and knowledgeable approach to what you described. If things are so bad here, it's too bad you don't want to stay and make things better.

I'll admit I have never owned any high end equipment. At the end of the day, figuratively and literally, I just want the TV to tell me a story. I don't really care if I can count the hairs on a gnat's ass at twenty paces. But I see the appeal to high end equipment, have used it and installed it, and I think I have something to contribute when someone else says what they want. Since I spent several years as the "answer man" for a hi fi chain, I understand how to interpret what customers want, and how to delve into what they say to get the right thing for them. And, by the way, to listen to them, too.

What high end equipment have you owned?

You guys will get a kick out of this from http://hdguru.com/

About getting a vizio tv repaired after the 1-year warranty:

Degaussing only applies to a TV with a picture tube. You did nothing but possibly reset a microprocessor.

WARNING..... OLD POST

Wow. I was only asking if anyone had discrete codes for the TV. I would still like to have them if anyone has them. I've been doing installs for about 12 years and have had a lot of experience with many sets. Of course I would like to offer a customer a seamlessly working remote but can't because no one has codes. That goes with a lot of displays these days. I have also found that Son Bravia LCD's no longer work with my old codes as well as the the economy model Pioneer plasmas. I'm very disappointed that they decided to change the command equipment in them so that I'm not able to integrate them sufficiently with a relatively inexpensive remote.

gregag,
I thought I wrote this in this thread, but I just reviewed it and see that I didn't. I sent Vizio'd management an email, sucking up to them and telling them that if they were to add discrete codes to their TVs, that lots of installers (all of us, NOT) would push them as that makes them so much easier to control.

Their response was that it was an interesting idea, but that they had no plan to do it or even to look into it.

So, the manufacturer tells me you won't find discretes. I got the impression that they were saying the chip in the TV had no discretes loaded into it, not just that the remote didn't have any. So even creating all possible codes would not get you discretes.

As it says in Italian, "vizio." Which means "defect" or "I fail." Other dictionaries have it "flaw." In a moral sense, it means "vice" or "bad habit."

I thought so but figured I might try. What could it hurt. It's just that I've been running into so many of these terds, I can't sell my customers a remote in good conscience. On top of everything, the tv's that I used to love are having problems with no discretes as well. I'm disenchanted to say the least.

You could integrate it well with something like an MSC-400 and a video sensing module.

Never mind that that would cost more than the TV itself...