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Harmony PS3 Adapter with other remotes: here's how!
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Post 1 made on Tuesday May 12, 2009 at 07:29
Daniel Tonks
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The most interesting part of the official blog post on the new adapter is the line "it is NOT designed for use with other remote controls". OK - so what in particular makes it unsuitable?

Assuming that the commands for this device are stored under Game System (with DVD) -> Sony -> PlayStation 3, then it would appear that this caution is due to the adapter using a custom codeset. Unlike all other PS3 control solutions, it does not use the standard Sony DVD+PS2 codeset, which is probably a good idea since it's likely that a lot of Harmony users may already have a Sony DVD player. It appears to use a protocol known as "pid-0066".

Of course with other adapters, they'd merely give you the codes in a file - however Logitech is in the business of selling Harmony accessories to Harmony owners, so they're not likely to go out of their way to make it easy to use with competing universal remotes.

But if you have a computer programmable remote, then I've already gone to the trouble of sorting out the new codes and have uploaded both decoded results, Pronto hex and a Pronto CCF for your PS3'ing enjoyment.

Download the file here [Link: files.remotecentral.com]
Post 2 made on Tuesday May 12, 2009 at 13:17
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Thanks, Daniel. When I read your article about the new unit , I couldn't see why you couldn't use it with other remotes. I'm using an IR2BT right now, but I might just give this Harmony unit a try.
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Post 3 made on Tuesday May 12, 2009 at 20:32
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I'm using the USB dongle of a nyko PS3 IR remote, which I learned into a harmony 880. Only thing it can't do is turn the unit on and off, which isn't that big of a deal. I believe it was 10 bucks.
OP | Post 4 made on Tuesday May 12, 2009 at 22:39
Daniel Tonks
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For many people, the IR-to-USB converters are just fine. They offer basic control at an inexpensive price.

For others, they really want to be able to power the PS3 on, and have access to all supported commands. It's all on what you feel is worth the money.
Post 5 made on Wednesday May 13, 2009 at 05:08
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Just wondering what you mean at the bottem when you say, it shows ps3 but its not a distinct command?

Im looking at the schmart device because of power sensing, i dont always use the remote to turn on the ps3, sometimes when i put in a game, i turn it on, on the machine itself. And then its out of sync. Does logitech have codes that work around this on/off problem (since the ps3 button turns it on, and the ps3 button is also used to turn it off) if they worked around this using codes it would be great, but schmart seems to be the only one and he has a usb cable for the ps3 to sense wether its off and on.
OP | Post 6 made on Wednesday May 13, 2009 at 06:14
Daniel Tonks
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On May 13, 2009 at 05:08, DonnieDarko said...
Just wondering what you mean at the bottem when you say, it shows ps3 but its not a distinct command?

Logitech's database has a "PS3 Off" function listed for this adapter, however it is not a unique command. Whenever I learn it, all I get is the command associated with the [PS] button. Which most likely means that the "PS3 Off" function as listed is merely a shutdown macro that plays back on the Harmony (and I haven't managed to learn the final few commands). The only other possibility is that a sustained press of [PS] triggers an onboard macro, however this seems unlikely. I'll know more when I get an adapter.

Im looking at the schmart device because of power sensing, i dont always use the remote to turn on the ps3, sometimes when i put in a game, i turn it on, on the machine itself. And then its out of sync. Does logitech have codes that work around this on/off problem (since the ps3 button turns it on, and the ps3 button is also used to turn it off) if they worked around this using codes it would be great, but schmart seems to be the only one and he has a usb cable for the ps3 to sense wether its off and on.

The Logitech has absolutely no onboard PS3 power tracking. So there's no hardware monitoring support, and not even onboard variable tracking - remember, the Harmony remote itself has variable-based tracking of device power status, so they expect you to use that. This adapter really *is* meant for Harmony owners. Of course, variable-based tracking can get out-of-sync with something like the PS3 that's prone to turning on very easily! :-)

Three PS3 adapters currently have hardware power monitoring. Audio Authority BlueBeam (although it has yet to be enabled in software), IR2BTci (most sophisticated options so far) and the Schmartz PS3IR-1000 (as you mention).
OP | Post 7 made on Thursday May 14, 2009 at 05:19
Daniel Tonks
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I received the Harmony Adapter, and the power off macro is definitely not stored on-board. Which is probably a safety feature, in case it needs to be changed in the future (I'm actually surprised that Logitech wasn't able to get Sony to add a proper shutdown command - I'm sure they pull some weight).
Post 8 made on Thursday May 14, 2009 at 09:57
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On May 13, 2009 at 06:14, Daniel Tonks said...
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Three PS3 adapters currently have hardware power monitoring. Audio Authority BlueBeam (although it has yet to be enabled in software), IR2BTci (most sophisticated options so far) and the Schmartz PS3IR-1000 (as you mention).

I just want to point out that the PS3IR1000 and BlueBeam track the power via one of the USB ports of the PS3 whereas the IR2BTci uses a Xantech Magnetic Sensor Module.
Post 9 made on Thursday May 14, 2009 at 13:26
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Im also surprised the logitech did not get sony to add a different power off command. Unless they get them to in a ps3 firmware upgrade. But then all devices could just copy the ir command.

I went ahead and ordered the schmart 1000 because i needed power sensing. I seem to be in the minority, people must be alot better then me at using there remotes. To often when i went to play a game I would turn the ps3 on, on the machine itself, throwing it out of sync.

I figured logitech maybe able to get sony to add a power off command completely seperate from turning it on (or using the ps key) but I guess not.
Post 10 made on Wednesday May 20, 2009 at 19:19
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On May 14, 2009 at 09:57, remoteshoppe said...
I just want to point out that the PS3IR1000 and BlueBeam track the power via one of the USB ports of the PS3 whereas the IR2BTci uses a Xantech Magnetic Sensor Module.

Just to clarify, Jim - the IR2BTci can also track the power via one of the USB ports on the PS3 or with the Xantech sensor. And according to Daniel's post above, the BlueBeam USB power tracking isn't enabled in software yet.
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OP | Post 11 made on Wednesday May 20, 2009 at 23:43
Daniel Tonks
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It was actually enabled a few days ago.
OP | Post 12 made on Friday May 22, 2009 at 06:09
Daniel Tonks
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Due to a report of issues using these codes with the Pronto NG (and on my further testing, problems when importing into URC remotes) I've re-learned all commands using a different Harmony source and using a different model Pronto for capture.

In poking around the Harmony database, I've noticed that they've added a "long PS" command (obviously a sustained PS hold), as well as three new commands: Back, Options and View. However these are merely duplicates of "Cross", "Triangle" and "Square" respectively. I actually think they have the "Back" mapping wrong - it should reference "Circle", not "Cross" (which is normally Enter/Select).
Post 13 made on Monday October 25, 2010 at 16:46
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I've figured out how to make the system power down, so please feel free to add it to the download file

Create a new button called "System Off" and create the following steps
Link to PS
Link to PS
Link to PS
Link to PS
Link to PS
Delay 1.00 Sec
Link to Enter
Delay 1.00 sec
Link to Enter

That works a treat. Hope that helps!
Post 14 made on Friday February 10, 2012 at 04:29
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On October 25, 2010 at 16:46, lovegroova said...
I've figured out how to make the system power down, so please feel free to add it to the download file

Create a new button called "System Off" and create the following steps
Link to PS
Link to PS
Link to PS
Link to PS
Link to PS
Delay 1.00 Sec
Link to Enter
Delay 1.00 sec
Link to Enter

That works a treat. Hope that helps!

Just purchased the adaptor direct for 26.99 from Logitech for my TSU7000.

System off button works perfectly.

Thanks to lovegroova and Daniel :)
Pronto TSU7000
Post 15 made on Tuesday February 25, 2014 at 12:47
sanjoseskater
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It's been a while since this topic has been discussed so I am resurrecting it.

I want to get a Harmony PS3 adapter to work with my MX-350. My plan was to learn the remote codes to my MX-350 from my friends Harmony One.

Will this work?
If learning doesn't work, what are my options?
Will I also be able to turn ON and OFF the PS3?
Is there a better solution out there for PS3 (trying to avoid harmony remote)?

Thanks for the help.
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