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Topic: | TSU3000 owner thinking of upgrading to the 9400 This thread has 10 replies. Displaying all posts. |
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Post 1 made on Wednesday November 28, 2007 at 15:55 |
DingoAce10 Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2003 132 |
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Ok, so my backlight on my 3000 is "going" from what I have been told. So I was thinking about getting the 7000, but THEN I saw the 9400 for about the same price ($50 difference). Is the 9400 brand new? I REALLY like the size of the 9400 compared to the 9600 (from what I have seen from pics) but I am not sure about the size compared to a persons hand...hard to judge from the pics. I used to have the HTM MX-500 is it way bigger than that?
So is the 9400 worth it? I am a application developer myself so I LOVE that I can right scripts for it! Is is just 2-way scripts or is it anything...Meaning can you program it like a "smart" macro? Ex. (not sure about the script syntax)
function MacroA_Clicked() { if (page == "TV") then { do_this();} else { do_somthing_else();} }
Also, I only see designs and images for the 9600, is there any place to get new designs for the 9400.
I assume it can control X-10 lighting like my 3000 does, right?
Is the editing software basically the same as the ProntoEdit NG?
Is the only difference between the 9600 and the 9400 the size?
Thanks very much!!!!
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Post 2 made on Wednesday November 28, 2007 at 17:56 |
Barry Gordon Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | August 2001 2,157 |
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Pronto script is Java Script; a fully computational programming language that is loosely typed with some object oriented facilities. Whew, thats a little techie!
In other words you can just about do anything you want.
There are extensions to tie the language to the display and the buttons, but behind it all is Java Script.
On control of X10, not with out other equipments, as it does not connect to the power line, but using an IR543 (IR to X10) like device and an extender to do TCPIP to IR you can do that. The Pronto Line (AFAIK, but definately the 9600) really only puts out TCP/IP over Wi-Fi. So I guess when you say "Like My. . ." the answer is yes
Coming from the now defunct iPronto, I am a real estate fan and the screen of the 9600 allows one a lot of flexibility in graphic design.
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Post 3 made on Wednesday November 28, 2007 at 18:35 |
Peter Dewildt Loyal Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2001 6,307 |
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The 9600 is landscape mode with resolution 640 x 480. The 9400 is portrait mode with resolution 320 x 240. The current editor is basically the same as ProntoEdit NG, except that there is also a datbase for holding your codes, and there is ProntoScript as well. There have been hints of significant changes coming to the editor.
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Peter Pronto 1000 (retired), Pronto TSU7000, RFX6000 (retired) Pronto 2xTSU9600, RFX9400 |
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OP | Post 4 made on Friday November 30, 2007 at 14:34 |
DingoAce10 Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2003 132 |
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Thanks for the info. I have the IR to 10x unit from smarthome which is how I control my lighting currently, so I assumed that the 9400 would be able to send the same signals to the unit, but just wanted to make sure.
That is great about the ProntoScript. Being a developer, I should have a fun time with it.
I like the 9600, but like I said I like the size of the 9400 cause you can hold it in one hand.
Thanks again!
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Post 5 made on Friday November 30, 2007 at 19:58 |
ddarche Mr. RemoteQuest |
Joined: Posts: | February 2002 2,309 |
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I think the TSU9400 is a very nice unit! I have been using one in my own theater for a month or so and it is nice to have a one-hander, with a good screen and a nice selections of hard buttons.
Plus, if you have a config from a previous color Pronto, it will import right over without any of the screen formatting issues you will run into with the TSU9600.
I also really like the TSU9600, don't get me wrong.
Dave
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Dave D'Arche http://RemoteQuest.comFine Home Theater Remote Controls & Solutions - Programming services for most remotes |
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Post 6 made on Saturday December 1, 2007 at 02:12 |
Lyndel McGee RC Moderator |
Joined: Posts: | August 2001 12,999 |
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The 9400 and 9600 can control the IR543XX from X10 with no issues. I use the TSU9600 and don't have an TSU9400 but I don't find it to be a big deal to use with 1 hand. But, I can palm a basketball...
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Lyndel McGee Philips Pronto Addict/Beta Tester
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Post 7 made on Saturday December 1, 2007 at 04:38 |
buzz Super Member |
Joined: Posts: | May 2003 4,383 |
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DingoAce10,
The TSU9400 is much faster than the TSU7000 and, using ProntoScript, you can add many little embellishments, even if you don't go into RS-232.
While one could program the 7000 without a computer, the 9400 must be programed using a computer.
Either way, I think that you should go for RF rather than IR. With RF you don't need to worry about proper aiming or moving the unit away from the proper aim point while long macros are running. When I'm programming IR only, I'll keep the macros short. If I'm programming RF, I'll use longer, more complete macros. For example, if I have discrete ON/OFF commands, I'll always include power ON commands when changing inputs.
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OP | Post 8 made on Tuesday December 4, 2007 at 16:47 |
DingoAce10 Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2003 132 |
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Thanks again for all of the info...Looks like the 9400 is my next remote...Cause of the price of the 9600, otherwise it would be a toss up.
Buzz, I understand what you are saying, but how would I make my current entertainment components recieve and RF signal? My TSU3000 also has the ability to send RF, but all of my components work off of IR. Do I need to buy an add on to all of the components to get it to work with RF.
Does the 9400 only do RF?
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Post 9 made on Wednesday December 5, 2007 at 00:51 |
buzz Super Member |
Joined: Posts: | May 2003 4,383 |
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DingoAce10,
The TSU9400 can directly emit IR, RF is optional.
The TSU9400 does RF, but not in the same sense as the TSU3000. The TSU9x00 series uses WiFi and, similar to the TSU3000, you'll need a "box" to receive the RF and emit IR. Both units have the ability to send the IR commands to one of four ports on the box.
The RFX9400 includes a WiFi receiver (that you can ignore if you like), the RFX9600 uses your WiFi access point(s) over an ethernet connection. The RFX9600 includes the ability to control relays, sense power, and transmit and receive RS-232 data.
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Post 10 made on Wednesday December 5, 2007 at 01:38 |
Peter Dewildt Loyal Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2001 6,307 |
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The RFX9400 is of little use if you ignore the WiFi receiver. It always communicates using WiFi whether in standalone mode or not.
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Peter Pronto 1000 (retired), Pronto TSU7000, RFX6000 (retired) Pronto 2xTSU9600, RFX9400 |
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Post 11 made on Tuesday January 8, 2008 at 00:25 |
TechnoDigirati Lurking Member |
Joined: Posts: | January 2008 5 |
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@DingoAce10
... I just upgraded from the TSU3000 to the TSU9400 and not at all disappointed. I looked at the TSU9600 also but most all of the reviews I came across on the Internet favored the 9400. I like the way it feels and I like the programmabilty, although I haven't done the ProntoScript thing yet but working on that ... the 'manual' is a tremendous disappointment: perceptively the technical writer was schizoid on the intended audience ... user or custom installer, but some good tidbits and worth minimally skimming, but you'll get more insight from remotecenral.
On my TSU3000 I 'struggled' getting from a primary page to an alternate one and returning ... in ProntoEditPro there's some nice special functions like <> to minimally get you back to the previoius page and with a few buttons you can bounce all over the place and get back to your primary component operating page ...
With the component code database moved outsidte the unit the 9400 is extrememly fast compared to the TSU3000 ... or not, but it moves quickly and decisively between control panel pages and ... it just feels good to handle and maneuver about the unit.
You likely have your own 9400 by now ... hope you enjoy it and are having as much fun as I am 'tweaking' it to manage my home entertainment system ...
T.
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