Hello,

Due to the fact that the TSU only takes WEP security I would like to create a separate wireless network for it. Is it possible to daisy chain 2 wireless routers to do this and what is the best way?

- which router to connect first?
- any special config needs to be done on a router?

Here is how I am planing the thing:

modem (cable 10mbps) <> Router 1 (Belkin N1) <> Router 2 (Linksys WRT54G)

Router 1 would be for computers only wi-fi with WPA security + network storage via LAN
Router 2 would have a second network with WEP security and have wi-fi for TSU9600, RFX9400, PS3, Wii + LAN for HD-DVD, Vudu

Can I just plug my N1 into the Modem, then plug the pre-configured WRT54G in the N1 via LAN and get going?

Did mine like this:

Cable Modem ==> 5-Port Switch
Switch port 1==> Wireless Router/Firewall(WRT54GX) ==> Local Network
Switch port 2==> Wireless Router/Firewall(WRT54G) ==> Pronto Network

Local Network - supports all desktop/laptop computers/Game Consoles, using WPA. Win2000 Server assigns IP addresses via DHCP(not req'd).
Pronto Network - supports all Pronto/Home Theater equipment/1 Laptop using WEP. All IP addresses are fixed.

I have a laptop that has 2 network cards and disable the one card on the pronto network unless using it for Pronto requirements.

My cable ISP alows up to 3 IP's per account.

You need to separate the 2 networks after the Modem, can't plug one router into another router. They would then all be on the same network.

Brian

EDITED: to add comments on IP addressing.

I'm thinking of using a wireless bridge (linksys wet54g). Then I can plug the bridge directly into an ethernet nic on my htpc, being sure to firewall the port from having wide open access to the htpc. The simplicity of this setup should make it easier to ensure that it remains secure. Comments?

Sure wish they would frikin' add WPA support. Even roku/slimdevices players have this built in.

My setup is similar to that of sbwright and 99% trouble free. The entire house was designed to eventually be all gigabit ethernet but right now is 10/100T.

The house has one and only one router, a linksys RTP300. It is connected to the cable modem on its internet side and has four 10/100 ports plus two phone connections on its output side. The phone service is by Vonage.

The 3 output ports go to three 8 port linksys workgroup switch units providing 24 10/100 switched ports. The fourth output port goes directly to the main server which handles file storage, Web service and music streaming.

The 24 ports make mostly home runs to keystone wall jacks in every room (some rooms have several as the wife had not decided furniture placement when the house was being built and wired) plus some major bundles to special places such as the "Server room" and the Theater.

There are three in ceiling WAP's running on no overlapping channels (1,6,11) all with the same SSI and encryption keys (WEP). The house is about 4500 square feet, all concrete block construction built to withstand 150 mph winds. Lots of rebar and metal tie-downs / straps. not RF friendly. All cordless phone are on the 5 Ghz band

The entire complex, which also houses all the phone and TV entrance equipments makes up the house's "Head End" and is on the Srever room UPS which will hold it and the other equipments it services for about 10 minutes. The standby genrator kicks in in 20 seconds after a power loss ergo UPS capacity is a non-issue. The UPS is really a power transition filter (think flywheel).

Every room has an in-wall touch screen which is actually a PC with no moving parts (DTR 880) running XPe The server room has two rack mounted PC's and the theater one (laptop) plus a lot of other equipment. My office development area has 2 PC's and there are a few laptops that float around.

The network is just about noise free, with a very low collision rate. The largest bandwidth user is Music. Wi-Fi performance is superior, especially if the client roams well. Unfortunately the Pronto does not. All machines except for the laptops and the Pronto's have fixed IP addresses. The laptops and the Prontos use DHCP service which is provided by the Router.

Have never used a bridge before, not up on its capabilities and my comments are based only on what I just read in the manual.

Are you using the RFX9600(wired) or RFX9400(wireless)?

If I understand the manual correctly using:

1) ADHoc mode would allow the TSU9600 and RFX9400(not the RFX9600) to communicate but would not have access to your HTPC or any other wired device presumably your internet.

2) Infrastructure mode would be the same as a wireless router using WEP allows all access(wireless to wired) and easy hacking.

Others here may be familiar with the bridge and can correct me

Thank you for the suggestion.

I have purchased a Netgear GS105 that I put after my modem and then plug both router in but I still have a problem.

The first router (N1) works fine and allows me to access the internet, but th second router does not.

I went into the cpanel and the WRT54G does not have an IP.

What do I need to do? Both routers have different IP (192.168.1.1 and 192.168.2.1) but both have the same subnet 255..... - could this be the problem?

Does your ISP allow multiple IP addresses?
Did you reboot the linksys(pull the power plug, wait a few seconds, plug in)? May need to reboot the modem as well, same method.

Those IP addresses/subnet should be fine.

Thanks,

I did reboot everything once, I'll have to check with TWC if they allow multiple IPs. Their website is quite unclear mentioning that you can have up to 6 computers connected to one modem but additional IPs are $4.95... not sure if they mean I get 6 "free" and need to pay for additional or if each extra one above the first is billed.

Does the modem have a hub built into it or is there just one connection for your network to connect to it?

If they allow multiple pc's connected then they must support multiple IP's up to 6 by the sounds of it, additional are extra.

In the linksys router config have you tried forcing it to obtain a new address from the ISP?

Thanks for your help, just called TWC who confirmed that they actually charge per IP. So I had to pony up another $4.95/month for the new IP... Ahh the joy of capitalism!

Just a quick question for you. Sorry to dig up an old thread. :)

Can the two networks talk to each other? For examply, an RFX9600 on the pronto network, and your PC with PEP on the other network, can you still get access from the pc on the other network in order to do software updates etc?

Or a better example;

I have my pronto on a separate wireless network, and my main PC and squeezebox on another network. Can the pronto still talk to the slimserver program on the PC in the other network?

Or am I being retarded? Sorry if its a complete noob question. :)

cheers

I suspect that everything would have to be on the same subnet (First 3 octets of IP address would need to be the same) but I'm not the expert on this topic.

I haven't read the whole thread. I do it this way.

1x Router (4 port)
1x WNAP for LAN access using WEP or other.
1x WNAP for PRONTO using MAC Filtering (NO encryption).

I have my configuration as the original poster was asking. Primary router/switch (DLink DIR-655) connected to my cable router. All my LAN attached stuff plugged into that router either directly or through a daisy chained switch. The DIR-655 connects all of my wireless devices using WPA/WPA2 encryption except for the Pronto. For that I have a Linksys router using WEP encryption for its wireless network with the uplink port attached to one of the switch ports on the primary router.

Works great. Only need one IP from the provider and I can apply additional security filtering in the linksys router to protect the rest of my network from the insecure Pronto WEP network.

Jeff

I based my set-up on the information I found at GRC.com. I have attached links to two very good explanations.

[Link: grc.com]
[Link: grc.com]

Based on this info, it is important to keep the weakest link (WEP router) prior to your secure network.

My set-up is hooked together like this:

Cable Modem
Netgear WGR-614 - WEP wireless enabled; Denon 4308, 9600 & server
Netgear WGR-614 - wireless not enabled; Ethernet connection to 360, PS3
Netgear GS605 5 port switch Ethernet connection to the rest of the computers