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Update: Received the TSU9400 Today!
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Post 1 made on Thursday September 27, 2007 at 12:30
Grego
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Finaly received our first unit today. I uploaded our showroom .PCF and have to make some adjustments.

The screen looks great and the remote is very light.

Best feature so far is the on/off switch for reset. Easier for clients to reset than pulling a battery.

I will try to provide more info as I progress.

Last edited by Grego on September 27, 2007 23:20.
Post 2 made on Thursday September 27, 2007 at 19:41
Peter Dewildt
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The 9600 has an on/off switch.
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OP | Post 3 made on Thursday September 27, 2007 at 23:20
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The transition from a TSU7500 pcf to an .xcf went well. The graphics look great. and the obvious hard buttons merged fine.

I started to reassign the firm buttons for every device. Definitely takes time with all the devices in our master .pcf. I was able to free up some real estate on the screen which is nice. The 5th button below the screen is a welcome addition too.

The screen activation control is different than the NG remotes. Thought I had it off the firm buttons but the screen randomly lights up when I use them but not every time. Might be a good idea to use the power hard button for a screen off If allowed.

It seems All the settings can only be accessed through programming. Bummer to have to crack open the laptop to change the time or screen timeout quickly.

You can't upload the files which is a real bummer. Especially if your company has multiple laptops and programmers. Guess we'll have to start that master folder on the server we always wanted...I guess it is to protect the .xcf so it can be appreciated.

Horray for pack and go! We are able to profit again sending music channel and icon updates to savy clients without leaving the shop.

The remote is responding well with the RFX 9400. I noticed The firm buttons take a little more time to hit than on the previous .pcf. My plan is to try the wifi this weekend.

The software is nice. The channel macro feature should add an exit before the digits (in case your on a guide or in the DVR list) and on some cable boxes can use an exit at the end. you are better off making one macro with the exit/enter added then ALT+drag on to the other icon buttons and do the double click link shortcut to set the proper number. A good thought though.

Since I have no experience with the ProEdit software, I have some homework. Lots of new tweaks and settings tabs to play with.

The gallery is OK if you do not want to make your own buttons. Nice backgrounds too.

That is it for now. If someone can chime in with their opinion of the best resource for Pronto script instruction, I would be very grateful. For now I will check the help file.
Post 4 made on Thursday September 27, 2007 at 23:41
Barry Gordon
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My bible is the book recommended by the Pronto Team (Java Script by Flannagan) in the Pronto Script developers guide. Between that book and the developers guide I have yet to have to seek an answer from the Pronto Team.

If your people go heavy into Pronto Script you might want to look at my pronto script utility tool posted on my web site (www.the-gordons.net). It reads an XCF and decomposes it giving a gui interface to each block of pronto script at the activity, page and button levels. It will invoke the editor of your choice to enter and maintain the scripts and do it relatively seamlessly. When you want to try out the "code" it will save it by rebuilding the xcf, invoking PEP and giving it the xcf to download. I use an editor by C-Point which was a $50 investment. Full color, syntax checking, pretty printing, code execution etc...
Post 5 made on Friday September 28, 2007 at 09:56
spec
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Did you just order one or did Philips/your dist. only send you one? If you are expecting more were you given a delivery time frame?
OP | Post 6 made on Friday September 28, 2007 at 10:32
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I ordered one from my distributor for R&D a couple of months ago when they were announced. THey should loosen up next week and be readily available.
Post 7 made on Thursday October 4, 2007 at 13:43
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Hi, new here! I'm from Sweden and I'm very intererested in a TSU9400. Since a friend of mine is going to New York for a week tomorrow, I was wondering if anyone knows if there's a chance for him to buy one during his visit there. Anyone knows if it's going to be available in stores in the immediate future?
Post 8 made on Friday October 5, 2007 at 17:32
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Grego:

Thanks for the info. Can you elaborate on the following:

1. Do the graphics of the TSU7500's PCF fit perfectly once loaded into the TSU9400? The TSU7500 and TSU9400 have the same resolution, but I wanted to verify that porting a TSU7500 PCF to the TSU9400 will not entail having to redo any graphics (I don't have any time to redo graphics at this time).

2. Do all the buttons and macros from a TSU7500 PCF work correctly after porting to the TSU9400? Just wanted to verify (I recall when going from a TS1000 to a TSU3000 a while back that a number of the remote commands stopped working).

3. I imagine some things that may need to be reprogrammed after porting a TSU7500 PCF to a TSU9400 include:

- Some hard button assignments may need to be redone.
- If RFX 6000 is used for RF commands

Does anything else need to be redone/reprogrammed after porting a TSU7500 PCF?? Obviously, to take advantage of TSU9400 features (RS-232, etc.), new programming/changes need to be done. Ignoring that, I just want to know, for now, how much effort is involved in porting an existing TSU7500 PCF.

Thanks!!

Last edited by randman on October 5, 2007 17:38.
Post 9 made on Friday October 5, 2007 at 22:17
Lyndel McGee
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Randman,

The newer platform is very reliable when it comes to importing. My TSU9600 import of my 7000 config had only 1 or 2 codes that did not work but that was because the codes were botched from CCF format when porting to TSU7000.

Graphics should port with no problems. Looks like the System areas are the same.

Have not downloaded the editor but I'd suspect that the 'Device Overview' and 'Page Overview' are not there as they are not on the TSU9600. As a result, if you had any Actions in your Device Action List (See Device Properties Dialog), they will be lost upon import. However, if you followed Lowpro's example (borrowed from me) of putting all actions for a Device Action List into a button on a hidden panel, you'll be able to relink things in rather easily.

Firm3,Firm4 on the 7500 will port to Firm4 and Firm5 of the 9400.

TSU9400 likely does not support Special Action 'Tools' as this does not exist on the 9600 platform.

TSU9400 only uses new extenders RFX9400 or RFX9600.

You know, as I sit here and type this, I realize that you could just as easily download the editor and import your PCF and simulate it and try for yourself. ;-)

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Post 10 made on Friday October 5, 2007 at 22:33
randman
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Thanks, Lyndel!
Post 11 made on Saturday October 6, 2007 at 07:51
buzz
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My experience importing a TSU-7000 program to the TSU-9600 indicates that at least some of the IR codes will be imported in a long format, rather than the short codes in the original 7000 program. I didn't fully research this issue. It is possible that the long codes came from the ProntoEditPro library.

The TSU-7000 programs worked, but the artwork was very small. In my case, this was not big deal because I planned to redo the program anyway. At least I could operate the system from the 9600 while I rebuilt the program, page by page and button by button.
OP | Post 12 made on Saturday October 6, 2007 at 08:18
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On October 5, 2007 at 17:32, randman said...
Grego:

Thanks for the info. Can you elaborate on the following:

1. Do the graphics of the TSU7500's PCF fit perfectly
once loaded into the TSU9400? The TSU7500 and TSU9400
have the same resolution, but I wanted to verify that
porting a TSU7500 PCF to the TSU9400 will not entail having
to redo any graphics (I don't have any time to redo graphics
at this time).

The screen sixe is the same and I did not have to tweak my graphics, only the system icons on the system page.


2. Do all the buttons and macros from a TSU7500 PCF work
correctly after porting to the TSU9400? Just wanted to
verify (I recall when going from a TS1000 to a TSU3000
a while back that a number of the remote commands stopped
working).

I haven't tested everything 100% but all works well so far.

3. I imagine some things that may need to be reprogrammed
after porting a TSU7500 PCF to a TSU9400 include:

- Some hard button assignments may need to be redone.

- If RFX 6000 is used for RF commands

You have to get the RFX9400 in order to use RF with the remote. The new RF extender is so much faster than the RFX6500.

Does anything else need to be redone/reprogrammed after
porting a TSU7500 PCF?? Obviously, to take advantage of
TSU9400 features (RS-232, etc.), new programming/changes
need to be done. Ignoring that, I just want to know, for
now, how much effort is involved in porting an existing
TSU7500 PCF.

Looking back, not much effort at all.
Post 13 made on Saturday October 6, 2007 at 08:34
randman
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The TSU9400 is looking more and more attractive! I thought of getting the TSU9600 a while back, but just wasn't ready to redo my graphics just yet, and wasn't sure how much I liked the horizontal layout.

For folks who have the TSU9400, what do you think of its ergonomics (shape, feel, hard buttons, etc.)?? Do you use one hand or two to use it (and did you use one hand or two with the old TSU7500/7000/3000/3500)?


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