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Post 1 made on Saturday June 3, 2017 at 17:31
Barry Gordon
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I am thinking about updating my network WAPs to more current technology. I am looking at the Ubiquiti line of WAP's (ubnt.com). Knowing that the Pronto Pro's are a little finicky regarding who they will talk to, does any one have any experience using Ubiquiti WAP's with 9800/9600/9400 remotes? I am looking at the Ubiquiti Networks UniFi AP Enterprise WiFi System UAP-3. I do not use RFX units so it is the connection between the Pronto PRO and the network that concerns me.

TIA

Barry
Post 2 made on Monday June 5, 2017 at 03:40
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I haven't tried using Ubiquiti access points with Pronto. You'll need to make sure that B/G compatibility is enabled and you may need to dumb down the encryption.

You may make out better if you dedicate one of the access points to the Pronto on a private subnet. This way you can use security that works with Pronto without compromising your overall security or slowing things down to accommodate the B/G compatibility.

In one installation I am using Ubiquiti, but I kept an old Linksys for the Pronto.

Dedicating an access point is OK if the Pronto is limited to one room. But it seems silly to have two parallel networks just to accommodate multiple Pronto's over a large area.

I'm not sure exactly which model access point is included in this 3-pack. I usually use the AC PRO model, but this is more expensive. I would expect that the AC PRO is more potent, but it is so easy to manage multiple access points that you are often better off with an access point in every room. A local, not so potent access point, is often more effective than a potent access point a few rooms distant.

If you have the wiring to support it, the UAP–AC–IW is an interesting approach. While these are not as potent as the AC PRO, you'll have a local access point in each room.

The dish shaped units work best when ceiling mounted because their radiation pattern is a hemisphere.
OP | Post 3 made on Monday June 5, 2017 at 08:21
Barry Gordon
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Thank you
Post 4 made on Tuesday June 6, 2017 at 05:51
Mike Garzione
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Not what you were specifically asking about, but just for the sake of comparison (or if someone else is considering what I did)....

I use a Zyxel USG40 router and just added a pair of Zyxel NWA5123-AC access points (for a bunch of wireless stuff in the house, including 3 TSU9600's). The router and AP's recognize each other, so the router does all the management of the AP's directly (the AP's can be managed via a web interface if you don't have a router that can manage them).

Each AP has 2.4GHz and 5GHz radios, and can support a number of SSIDs. I have an SSID configured for WEP that works nicely with the TSU9600s (so far -- I've actually only had it installed for 2 days, now -- same thought as you about updating, Barry :-). I also have it doing MAC address filtering for a bit of extra security. If you use one of these, the settings that I found work are:
Security mode: wep
MAC Authentication: unchecked
802.1X: unchecked
Authentication type: open
Key length: WEP-128
Key: the 26-digit Hex representation of the WEP Passphrase
Post 5 made on Tuesday June 6, 2017 at 06:34
Michael Hornsby
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I've been using them for some time. However somewhere along the way they broke WEP and never fixed it.

[Link: community.ubnt.com]

I ended up switching back to a dedicated WEP access point
OP | Post 6 made on Tuesday June 6, 2017 at 11:55
Barry Gordon
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Michael,

That is surprising. I like the Ubiquiti WAP line and my understanding they are very popular with custom installers. Looking at the link you provided, it was a little confusing. I always considered the 26 character key to be just a 13 character ASCII string expressed as a hex number. Many WAPs allow you to either enter the 13 character string directly or its HEX representation.

Mike,

The Zyxel line looks interesting. I use a Mikrotik router and I am not going to change that. I will look at the Zyxel WAP you are using

Lyndell,

If I remember correctly (or am I thinking about some other device) The 9800 had an old style wifi card that in theory would allow you to swap out the radio to a newer version of that card type if one exists. I guess I might have to open up the 9800.
Post 7 made on Thursday June 15, 2017 at 00:05
Lyndel McGee
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Barry,

I just looked at a service manual as I no longer have a 9800. The wifi chip is SMD on the board from what I can tell. There are 2 sub-boards. 1 is for the doc and the other is the power inverter board for the backlight of the display.

Lyndel
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Post 8 made on Sunday June 18, 2017 at 11:10
Tom Light
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I have a customer working with unify ap's, no problem so far...
Think he has an hidden network for the pronto's
Post 9 made on Monday June 19, 2017 at 08:47
Dawn Gordon Luks
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The best WAPs you can buy are from Ruckus. I have single R600's serving 5000 sq foot homes. Also enterprise grade and never had one go down.


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