I was thinking about what a modern replacement for the 7500 was with the customization like the Pronto but, I cant seen to find a option.

I've still got a TSU7500, thinking of getting a TSU9600 if I can find one for the right price...They still seem to claim like $400-500 on ebay, I would grab one if I can get it for $100-150...

Dam, the software is very different, a big learning curve for this one (I downloaded it and took a look over it)

LOL - All I can say is....

You get what you pay for.

If there are TSU9600's on Ebay for $100-$150, they are either 'dead' or in 'terrible shape'.

The JavaScript programming capabilities on this control panel make it worth the $$$.

As usual Lynell is right on. The reason I dropped iRule and switched to CommandFusion on the iPad/iPhone was the JavaScript engine and its capabilities.

Command fusion started without the JS engine and they tried to do all in the app. IMHO that got much too complex due to the variation of what is out there. In todays world you can just about do any thing in the HA/HT markets using TCP/UDP and sometimes a little RS232. Global Cache media changers handle IR and serial with no issues and a fully exposed protocol.

I don't like what is happening with IoT. The manufacturers are featuring cloud based services and making the protocols for cloud communications either proprietary or encrypted. I can control all of home from the WWW If I want to but really, do I need to turn off the bedroom lights from someplace other than my home?

I like my privacy and am smart enough to not do stupid things on the web or open email attachments from those I do not know. Based upon what happens in the "Secure" world, and this includes clouds built by manufacturers, I just want to keep a very low profile with enough protections to make me feel comfortable. It is nobody's business what goes on in the privacy of my home, not even what temperatures I keep my house at.

Yea, found one for $125 in great shape complete with out manual. User upgraded to a new system. I said what I wanted to pay and 2 days later I found one, love it :)

Take a look if you don't believe me...
[Link: ebay.com]

Now I think I am going need help with this one, wow, this software is a big difference from what my TSU7500 was....


Now the 2 month process in learning how to program it and time in Photoshop to make it what I want...

Is there a programming manual any place ? Something that gives a little detail and enough to get someone started on it ? Just to learn the basics, I've had the 7500 for so long I just got a good idea on how it works...

Also, any problems with the driver on this one and a 64bit os ?

Download PEPV1 and take a look at F1 Help. Then, download PEPV2 2.4 and look at the help that comes with that. Don't jump into PEP3 at first as this was only ever released in Beta and does not have good help files with it.


The Pro remotes use Windows HID devices. Many have things running on Windows 8 and 64 bit. I personally still use 32 bit but have a new PC sitting here that I need to get my stuff migrated to.

Win7 Pro 64bit.

Lyndel

Thanks, I'll start there, Not sure of all the features this device can do over my old TSU7500....

My primary desktop is running WIndows 7 Ultimate 64bit (triple booting with Win8x64 and Win10x64), I know my TSU7500 only has 32bit drivers so I need a VM to update it, just wondering if I should base my main install on my desktop or back on my VM....

I would try with x64 first and if does not work, go to a VM.

I think all the prontos will basicially die at the same time.
I know when you have a fleet of cars that are identical. they would all start developing the same problems at around the same time

Interesting point. Which brings us to the original question: What's a good alternative?

I wish I could say the alternative was ready, but it is being worked on :)

I don't find their point interesting at all. No offense, but I found their statement to be silly at best. There is no magical expiration date where all of my Pronto Pro remotes are just going to up and die. Even the Pronto NG remotes that I own are still in perfect working order (...which are several years older than my Pronto Pro remotes naturally) and I have no doubt 10 years from now I'll be able to report back and nothing will have changed in that regard. In fact, I have a box full of OEM remotes which includes numerous universal type remotes, around 35 total I'd say. None of those remotes have magically stopped working either, many of which are one or more decades old. I've also purchased and programmed used Pronto NG and Pronto Pro remotes for a number of friends and family members and to date none of those remotes have even broken a sweat. Honestly, it amazes me the correlations some choose to make. I've owned the same car for 15 years now and it runs just as beautifully as the day I purchased it. It gets me safely and comfortably from point A to point B and most importantly, without having to make a car payment each month. My Pronto Pro based remote control solution does the same for me when it comes to getting the most out of the electronics I've purchased. Different strokes for different folks naturally, but personally I have zero desire to entertain alternatives, so long as my Pronto gear continues to get the job done and I have no doubt that will continue to be the case for the decade to come and beyond. The simple fact is, there is no alternative to the Pronto Professional line that offers remotes with both a touchscreen and generous amount of hard buttons, extenders which use Wi-Fi as their RF carrier (..which is extremely well implemented) in addition to programming software (...accessible to the DIY'r) that truly stays out of your way (...rather than making you want to pull your hair out every time you have to use it because of how dumbed down and obtuse it is) allowing you to build the user experience that you want from the ground up both with respects to the GUI and logic put in place behind it. Any alternatives short of meeting those criteria I would hardly consider good alternatives.

I'm thankful the Pronto Pro exists and does everything I need. I have been using several TSU9800's and extenders for several years and have never had any problems with them. They have replaced a box full of remotes and have simplified what would have been a PITA maze of remotes/key presses to operate all my equipment. I'm also a heavy user of ProntoSqueeze for streaming many thousands of CDs and SiriusXM.

I'm not aware of any alternatives that would equal the features I currently use in the Pronto Pro.

LP,

Some food for thought, and maybe a laugh.

The only thing I have to say regarding that 15 year old car. I suspect it is still running and in good condition because it gets taken care of and gets regular service.

I once purchased a used TSU9600 and was very surprised when it arrived to have the back battery cover be a dark brown tint compared to the front which was pristine silver-grey. So, I attributed this to leather sofa stain where someone had set the remote on the arm and the rubber paint on the back had absorbed the dye. That being said, I also will note that that particular remote is also very stubborn when place on the docking station. Contacts corrode IMO too easily. Why do none of my other 9600's do this? Likely because they were in the arid climate in TX and were not directly exposed to sea air like the one I purchased used from Puerto Rico.

So, while care does add to the life of the remote, normal operating climate does indeed have an effect. As does the sticky fingers and occasional glass of wine spillage.

Also, if a remote is dropped, that does indeed open up opportunity for solder joint breakage/stress. I have tile floors and I have dropped 1 remote on the corner 1 time by accident. Fortunately, that unit is still 100% functional, albeit has a ding on the corner. When I hear of someone who has a broken LCD, I have to ask if the remote suffered the same fate as many a plasma TV with Wii controllers.

Lyndel

Not sure how you come up with that for remotes like the pronto. The best remotes I have ever owned. My Old TS1000 still works even though it has been sitting for 5 years, charge the battery and it's up and running again.

My 5 year old TSU7500 was on the charger every other day, Ebay $12, I'll be lucky if I need to put it on the charger once every 2 weeks... I would say this remote has been dropped MANY times or had the abuse of a 2 year old and it still works 100%...

And now that I started setting up my TSU9600, maybe in a few weeks it will be ready for use (it does work on X64 Win7 fine)...

I wish there was newer models of the pronto, something updated a little more but, as one of the most advanced remote out there, No question it is the best.

As long as I can still get them, I don't think there is anything else out there for me. Next one will be a 9800 but, I am not spending $900 :-\


A true alternative for the pronto (it would need to fill big shoes)? Do tell :)

Lowpro you put words in my mouth I did not say just up and die.. I said, basically die at the same time and that is two different things

I think we all know, that if I keep my remote in the closet for 10 years.. yes it will still work.
What I meant, if the remotes were being used. Give me a break

Google knows BASICALLY when a hard drive will fail,[because there is a pattern] they have thousands of them.

Everything in the world has a life expectancy. your life expectancy is 74.4 years old ...BASICALLY

I bet Pronto knew the life expectancy of the remote before it hit the shelfs.

My whole point was if you buy a remote off of e-bay...it would be in about the same shape as the one i've got now or worse