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Scaling graphics for the 9600
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Post 16 made on Wednesday November 15, 2006 at 19:07
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On November 15, 2006 at 18:50, lhaag said...
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What is the icon to the right of the battery

Dave

That is the "Settings Button" system item which gives you access to the settings pages in the remote. Like the Pronto NG line, this system item needs to be held down for 4 seconds.

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Post 17 made on Thursday November 16, 2006 at 13:05
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My "Settings Button" is a wrench with a nut and a washer. Looks nothing like yours. Also the Settings Button does not function in the simulator.
Post 18 made on Thursday November 16, 2006 at 14:22
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On November 16, 2006 at 13:05, lhaag said...
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My "Settings Button" is a wrench with a nut and a washer.
Looks nothing like yours. Also the Settings Button does
not function in the simulator.

In my example pic the "Settings Button" is the second icon in the system area from the right. Sounds the same to me. It is a wrench with a nut and a washer as well. I am not using a custom icon there. Also, the Simulator works a bit differently for PEP than it does for PENG/PPENG. The "Settings Pages" can not be accessed via the "Settings Button" in the Simulator. This was done by design. Also take note that the Simulator for PEP is available immeidately after calling it up in the editor. This is a very welcome change in contrast to PENG/PPENG where you have to wait a good bit for the Simulator to load up. And for those that did not notice there is a new Simulator option with PEP where you can simulate a page directly rather than having to always start on your home page. To simulate a page you simply right click on any given page and choose the "Simulate Page" option.

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Post 19 made on Thursday November 16, 2006 at 15:43
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The "example" you provided in post 18 has a different icon arrangement the the "pic" in post 9.
In the "example" in post 18 the icon I was wondering about is on the far right.
Post 20 made on Thursday November 16, 2006 at 16:54
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On November 16, 2006 at 15:43, lhaag said...
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The "example" you provided in post 18 has a different
icon arrangement the the "pic" in post 9.
In the "example" in post 18 the icon I was wondering
about is on the far right.

The icon on the far right in the example pic from post 18 is not a System Item, but a regular button which I have on the System page which takes you to my lighting device. It's a smaller version of the lighting activity button which comes with the default configuration files. As with my TSU7500 PCF I wanted to have quick access to my lighting device from any given activity based page via an icon in the top right corner. To make room for this icon on the system page I removed the USB icon, otherwise I would not have enough room left in the header area which is used throughout my XCF.
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Post 21 made on Thursday November 16, 2006 at 17:58
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Thanks

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Post 22 made on Friday November 17, 2006 at 00:25
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Lowpro -

I see you added two new buttons ("#" & key symbol) on the All Titles / Index page. I'm assuming that the "#" button takes you to jacket covers (movies) that start with numbers, i.e. "10", 12 Monkeys, 3 Days of the Condor, etc., but what function does the "key" button perform?

Congrats on your new toy!

Oh, nice look on the background page (library of DVDs). :-)

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Post 23 made on Friday November 17, 2006 at 01:19
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Suspicion, knowing LowPro.

The Key symbol more than likely is used to pop up a help screen showing what the hard buttons do.
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Post 24 made on Friday November 17, 2006 at 01:32
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On November 17, 2006 at 01:19, Lyndel McGee said...
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The Key symbol more than likely is used to pop up a help
screen showing what the hard buttons do.

Hmm... maybe. A "?" button was use for that purpose in the older RC models. I'm hoping that it has something to do with a password algorithm.
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Post 25 made on Friday November 17, 2006 at 11:26
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On November 17, 2006 at 01:32, wjjz106 said...
Hmm... maybe. A "?" button was use for that purpose in
the older RC models. I'm hoping that it has something
to do with a password algorithm.

The # button is for titles which begin with a number. The button in the last row with the key symbol is there for a future use yet to be determined at this point. If you tap on that button it just beeps at you. I needed to complete that row with some kind of button. The key symbol looked the best and made the most sense to use as I could easily see it being used to access restricted titles for a given genre once entering a password. Good guess wjjz.

As for help pages, none are included in my XCF as I came up with a clever way to identify for the user what the Home, Menu, and Guide buttons do from any given page/device. On the right side of each activity based page are three buttons. Each correspond with the Menu, Guide, and Home hard buttons in that order and are labeled as such below the primary label for each button using a smaller font as seen here. This eliminated the need for help pages in my XCF as the other hard buttons on the remote are only programmed with their intended functions including the OK button. As for the firm key labels, unlike my TSU7500 PCF, the firm key labels in my XCF are visible from all pages. This ensures the user always knows what the firm keys are programmed to do.

Now there are some exceptions to the rule however. The first is with regards to the power button and page up and down buttons. The power button is not used to power down my system or anything else for that matter. Using it for this purpose would be a waste in my opinion. It is my Home button taking the user back to the Activities page or browsing them backwards first if they are under a non-activity based device such as my display, audio, or lighting devices. Additionally, the activity icon in the top left corner of each page functions as my Home button as well. The power button is used for one other purpose at times in conjunction with the page up and down buttons. As with my TSU7500 PCF, I have conditional pages which come up when starting a given activity or shutting my system on or off. The big difference with my XCF as seen here is that soft buttons are no longer used to answer the questions on these conditional pages. Firm keys 2,3, and 4 are used instead labeled yes, no and cancel. This allows for using the firm key buttons or firm key labels on screen. If you prefer however, page up, down, and the power button can be used. Page up for yes, page down for no, and the power button for cancel. Also, when on my "Activities" page, page up is used for "System On" and page down is used for "System Off". Other than that the page up and down buttons are only used in their classic sense, to browse the visible pages of a given device.

So as you can see, the changes I've made with my XCF over my PCF have eliminated the need for help pages. This was all part of a larger objective however. That objective was to optimize the overall interface so that one could fully navigate the interface via hard buttons or soft buttons based on their preference. Having soft buttons on each page representing the Menu, Guide, Home, and Power buttons takes care of those functions. Having the firm key labels visible on all pages takes care of that front. For the page up and down functions firm keys are used when available such as with my DVD Juke device and conditional pages. When firm keys are not available a transparent button is used set to Page down and placed over top of the header label. In addition, the Activities page and DVD Juke Menu pages have been optimized for both hard button or soft button use. The Activities page can be navigated in one of two ways. You can simply tap on an activity button answering the questions via the firm key label buttons as you are prompted, or you can use the directional pad to hightlight any given activity button, pressing OK to start up that activity, then using the firm keys or page up (yes), page down (no), and power (cancel) buttons to answer the questions when prompted. As for the DVD Juke menu, you can now tap on any given genre/category to go directly to its Index page. Alternatively, you can use the directional pad to highlight a particular genre/category as you must do with my TSU7500 PCF, then hitting the OK button or Index (Guide or Firm Key 4) button to access its Index page.

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Post 26 made on Saturday November 18, 2006 at 10:42
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LP -

Your "work-in-progress" (XCF) on your TSU9600 looks fantastic! Please don't leave less fortunate ($$$) out in the cold. That is, many have followed your work since the early days, TSU3000, and would like to continue to do so on their present remotes (7000/7500).

Take the example of the "key" discussion from the above posts, if you were implement the idea into your 9600 or any additions, I'm hoping that you would update your 7500 (if applicable) so others can "enjoy" it as well. I would love to see the password come to fruition and be able to use it.

I wish you much success with your new remote.

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Post 27 made on Tuesday December 5, 2006 at 13:36
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On November 18, 2006 at 10:42, wjjz106 said...
LP -

Your "work-in-progress" (XCF) on your TSU9600 looks fantastic!
Please don't leave less fortunate ($$$) out in the cold.
That is, many have followed your work since the early
days, TSU3000, and would like to continue to do so on
their present remotes (7000/7500).

Take the example of the "key" discussion from the above
posts, if you were implement the idea into your 9600 or
any additions, I'm hoping that you would update your 7500
(if applicable) so others can "enjoy" it as well. I would
love to see the password come to fruition and be able
to use it.

I wish you much success with your new remote.

Thanks for the kudos on my XCF wjjz106. It's coming along quite nicely. By months end I should finally have things finished up. Right now I'm going back and updating all of my XM Channel Logos. I've been using the ones from my PCF, but they just don't do the TSU9600 justice. Today I finished up the music channels. See below for some link action.

XM Music Channel Logos: Pic 01 | Pic 02

From here forward I'll only be using the TSU7500 for demo purposes, so updates to my PCF will be less frequent. That being said, you can expect an updated set of XM Channel Logos for the TSU7500 in a few weeks once I finish up the set for the TSU9600.

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Post 28 made on Wednesday December 6, 2006 at 09:42
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On December 5, 2006 at 13:36, Lowpro said...
That being said, you can expect an updated set of XM
Channel Logos for the TSU7500 in a few weeks once I finish
up the set for the TSU9600.

Looking forward to it. Thanks LP
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Post 29 made on Thursday December 7, 2006 at 12:34
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Lowpro, I tried to follow your link to download your file

LP's TSU7500 DVD Juke PCF Download (Updated on 11/20/2006) :
[Link: home.comcast.net]


But it keeps coming up saying "comcast" does not recognise this link - am I being stupid!

kc
Post 30 made on Thursday December 7, 2006 at 13:08
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On December 7, 2006 at 12:34, kcsun said...
Lowpro, I tried to follow your link to download your file

LP's TSU7500 DVD Juke PCF Download (Updated on 11/20/2006)
:
[Link: home.comcast.net]

But it keeps coming up saying "comcast" does not recognise
this link - am I being stupid!

kc

The download link was broken. Sorry about that. I had moved the file to some different web space and forgot to update the link. It's fixed now, so just hit up the link in my signature area below to access the download link again. Enjoy!

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