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Problem with TSU9800, RFX9600, Marantz SR8002, and Marantz Pronto Script Module
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Post 1 made on Wednesday June 10, 2009 at 21:08
GreenBayTheater
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Wondering if anyone else has seen this.

I'm using the official Pronto Script Module from the Philips Web site for the Marantz SR-8002 for use on the TSU9800.

It is very simple, you merely call a page jump the volume up or volume down pages within the script from the hard buttons within any activity.

I have not seen this problem, but my customer is reporting that occasionally when they press the volume up button, the volume continues all the way to the top eventhough they have released the button and conversely, the volume may continue all the way to the bottom when they press the volume down button eventhough it has been released. They can stop the action by pressing the opposite volume button, but this is not desirable.

Has anyone else seen this?

Any ideas or suggestions?
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Post 2 made on Thursday June 11, 2009 at 02:34
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I don't know the answer to your problem but I do know that it (or something like it) has recently been discussed in another thread which you might therefore want to search for.
OP | Post 3 made on Thursday June 11, 2009 at 13:30
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On June 11, 2009 at 02:34, Guy Palmer said...
I don't know the answer to your problem but I do know that it (or something like it) has recently been discussed in another thread which you might therefore want to search for.

Tried that before creating this post. No valid hits with any useful information.
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Post 4 made on Thursday June 11, 2009 at 15:18
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This was the thread that I was thinking about: [Link: remotecentral.com]
Post 5 made on Thursday June 11, 2009 at 18:58
Lyndel McGee
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If this script was done like the Denon Module that Philips provides...

The problem is likely that the onRelease() handler that is being installed to the PS_VOLUME_UP and PS_VOLUME_DOWN widgets in the page script is not working properly.

It is supposed to clear a flag that indicates that it is OK to return to the previous page upon a volume release. You would have to debug the module to see what is going on which includes adding logging and such to fix the problem.

By chance did you or your customer change the Page Repeat Interval?
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OP | Post 6 made on Friday June 12, 2009 at 09:52
GreenBayTheater
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I checked that right away. It is still set at .10 seconds and I double checked the original Pronto Script which is also set to .10.

I do have the exact same receiver in my own home along with a 9400. I'll see if I can get it to do the same thing in my scenario.

Wish I was more familiar with ProntoScript...
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Post 7 made on Sunday June 14, 2009 at 23:57
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FWIW...
I have the Marantz RC9001 and the SR8002. My volume never has worked correctly...kind of the opposite problem than your customer. When I press the volume up or down there is a delay. Then sometimes the volume will respond sometimes it won't.
I've learned a certain, button push, cadence that is 95% predictable.

Just thought I'd chime in.
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OP | Post 8 made on Wednesday June 17, 2009 at 11:00
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On June 14, 2009 at 23:57, RastusW said...
FWIW...
I have the Marantz RC9001 and the SR8002. My volume never has worked correctly...kind of the opposite problem than your customer. When I press the volume up or down there is a delay. Then sometimes the volume will respond sometimes it won't.
I've learned a certain, button push, cadence that is 95% predictable.

Just thought I'd chime in.

Rastus, are you using a serial connection and the official Marantz ProntoScript?
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Post 9 made on Wednesday June 17, 2009 at 20:39
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Likely, the answer to using certified javascript is YES.

The Philips/Marantz module does something rather unique (I personally consider it somewhat poor design and a bug). It writes the volume command and does NOT wait for a response before sending subsequent volume commands. Therefore, it will queue up the commands with several ScheduleAfter() calls which are executed later and can cause volume ramps that continue even after the button is released.

There are certain concepts of the Denon file that I like, but the one about not waiting for volume response was a show-stopper for me to use the module.

Volume ramping and continuing after the press is undesirable and can cause damage to speakers or human ears.

The fix is rather easy.

First, save off the last volume command you sent "MVXXX or MVUP" in a receiver member field with name "lastVolumeCommand" and during the page repeat or the button repeat, if "lastVolumeCommand" starts with "MV" then don't send again until this field is cleared (empty string, null, or undefined).

Next, modify the response processor such that when you get a volume response/event, clear the "lastVolumeCommand" flag.

If you plan on using this script, my recommendation is to make the above fix or ask Philips to publish an update to the Denon scripts and RCMail Daniel to find out who provided the Marantz files and ask them to provide an update as well.
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Post 10 made on Monday July 27, 2009 at 10:32
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I'm also having a heck of a problem with the Marantz volume, and the zone 2 volume. I'm using the official module, and I't just spotty....and now I see they are not offering the rc9001 anymore......oh bother.
Post 11 made on Tuesday July 28, 2009 at 06:50
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Thought ill add my two cents in. i have spent countless hours modifying the Marantz / Philips script. i have got TSU9600, RFX9600, Marantz SR8002 and have finally got 2 way communication for the following:

1. Volume in main , Zone 2 & zone 3 with volume bar in each activity.
3. Tuner 2 way in Main, Zone 2 & Zone 3 independently.
4. Surround mode feedback.

i never had any issues with marantz script when it came to volume up and down.

Thanks
Daniel
Post 12 made on Tuesday October 26, 2010 at 05:08
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On July 28, 2009 at 06:50, danieljgor said...
Thought ill add my two cents in. i have spent countless hours modifying the Marantz / Philips script. i have got TSU9600, RFX9600, Marantz SR8002 and have finally got 2 way communication for the following:

1. Volume in main , Zone 2 & zone 3 with volume bar in each activity.
3. Tuner 2 way in Main, Zone 2 & Zone 3 independently.
4. Surround mode feedback.

i never had any issues with marantz script when it came to volume up and down.

Thanks
Daniel

Hi Daniel,

I have a question about the Surround Mode Feedback, does this work correctly with HD surround modes like DTS HD Master, Dolby TrueHD?
For some reason these modes seem to return "sur:0" in my case, which corresponds to "Auto". Kind of annoying.

Best, Peter
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