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My Pronto CCF does not work with Total...
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Topic: | My Pronto CCF does not work with Total Remote This thread has 11 replies. Displaying all posts. |
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Post 1 made on Saturday September 18, 2004 at 02:01 |
Tony George Lurking Member |
Joined: Posts: | December 2002 9 |
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i have just got a Pocket PC and already had a Pronto TSU2000. I was under the impression I could simply load my CCF into Total Remote and away I go. Problems though. Loads ok and I have access to my Pronto CCF but no devices respond to any IR commands from the CCF.
Am I doing something obvious wrong ? Does it need to be converted somehow first ?
The Total Remote package is working if I use it in Standard mode and learn commands from scratch.
My Setup: hp iPAQ h4350 Philips Pronto TSU2000 Total Remote v2-1-381
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OP | Post 2 made on Sunday September 19, 2004 at 08:14 |
Tony George Lurking Member |
Joined: Posts: | December 2002 9 |
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Have done some more research ...
Looked at the Griffin IR transmitter using a digital camera and I can tell the ccf is transmitting, but a very very weak signal.
The 'standard' layout is transmitting a much stronger signal.
Help.
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Post 3 made on Monday September 20, 2004 at 09:55 |
barend Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | October 2003 275 |
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It all depends on which pda you use. Barend
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OP | Post 4 made on Tuesday September 21, 2004 at 05:25 |
Tony George Lurking Member |
Joined: Posts: | December 2002 9 |
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are you saying this is as good as it gets with an iPAQ h4350 ?
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Post 5 made on Wednesday September 22, 2004 at 13:22 |
Don Stratton Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | December 2002 190 |
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On 09/21/04 09:25 ET, Tony George said...
are you saying this is as good as it gets with an iPAQ h4350 ? Just to be clear, are you saying you get a stronger transmission when using Total Remote's native mode versus transmitting a signal from within CCF mode? --Don
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OP | Post 6 made on Saturday September 25, 2004 at 00:39 |
Tony George Lurking Member |
Joined: Posts: | December 2002 9 |
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It would appear that way to the naked eye. But then I guess it could also be because I have previously cleaned up my codes in the CCF using ProntoEdit on my TSU2000
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Post 7 made on Monday September 27, 2004 at 10:24 |
tjdmobile Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | September 2004 14 |
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Don,
I will say that this triggers something I have found as well. The IR signals are "louder" and "Brighter" using Native mode than CCF mode. Usable distance is far greater in Native mode. This is observed on both my IR extender pyramid and a CCD camera...
TJD
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Pronto TSU3000 with RF Powermid repeater, PDA remote user |
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Post 8 made on Monday September 27, 2004 at 11:26 |
Dave Houston RF Expert |
Joined: Posts: | October 2001 1,521 |
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The "brightness" of the CCD camera is misleading. The "native" (IrDA emitter) uses a wavelength (850nm) that is closer to visible light than a CIR emitter (940nm) and the camera, being optimized for the visible spectrum will show the IrDA emitter as being brighter but the CIR emitter should give better range. If it doesn't, there's probably something else amiss, like the carrier frequency being too far off what the receiver is designed for.
The Powermid uses a 40kHz IR receiver.
The duty cycle of the carrier will also have an effect on perceived "brightness".
The latest PDAs from Dell, HP and others use a compromise wavelength of ~885nm which explains why they offer better CIR range than earlier PDAs.
This message was edited by Dave Houston on 09/27/04 11:32 ET.
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Post 9 made on Monday September 27, 2004 at 14:35 |
Don Stratton Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | December 2002 190 |
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On 09/27/04 14:24 ET, tjdmobile said...
Don,
I will say that this triggers something I have found as well. The IR signals are "louder" and "Brighter" using Native mode than CCF mode. Usable distance is far greater in Native mode. This is observed on both my IR extender pyramid and a CCD camera... You have brought up a point which is remarkably easy for me to test, so I will. If it turns out there is a difference in output power, IrDA or audio, it will indicate a flaw in the CCF mode code that should be readily fixable. --Don
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Post 10 made on Monday September 27, 2004 at 15:07 |
tjdmobile Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | September 2004 14 |
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On 09/27/04 18:35 ET, Don Stratton said...
You have brought up a point which is remarkably easy for me to test, so I will. If it turns out there is a difference in output power, IrDA or audio, it will indicate a flaw in the CCF mode code that should be readily fixable.
--Don Don, I just thought of something. Could this be related to the fact that there is no "warm-up" tone generated for the Griffin device in CCF as there is for the Native mode? just a thought... TJD
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Pronto TSU3000 with RF Powermid repeater, PDA remote user |
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Post 11 made on Wednesday September 29, 2004 at 14:58 |
Don Stratton Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | December 2002 190 |
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On 09/27/04 19:07 ET, tjdmobile said...
Don, I just thought of something. Could this be related to the fact that there is no "warm-up" tone generated for the Griffin device in CCF as there is for the Native mode? just a thought...
TJD Not too likely. The technical reason for the "warm-up" is to stabilize the audio hardware by getting it "up to speed" before we transmit actual IR data (we play a sound before we play the "IR command" sound). It should have nothing to do with relative brightness of the LED. Good thought, though! --Don
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Post 12 made on Tuesday October 19, 2004 at 22:38 |
girolamous Lurking Member |
Joined: Posts: | October 2004 3 |
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Hi, I also am having trouble getting a ccf file to control an Aiwa system using Total Remote on my ipaq 3750 . Is there a way to diagnose the problem?
Thanks, Jerry
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