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Total Remote and Scientific Atlanta
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Post 1 made on Monday April 12, 2004 at 19:44
TurbMike
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I'm running the demo version of Total Remote (build 2.1.333) and spent a Sunday afternoon messing around with it (with my Dell x3i). I have to say, I'm impressed. I've tried most of the PDA remote software I can find and Total Remote is hands-down the best I've seen. If I can just work out the last little issue I'll be ready to spring for a registration key.

I can get my Sony TV and Sony DVD players to work just great (using self-created device profiles). My favorite chair is about 20 feet from both and they respond wonderfully. The problem I'm having is with my Scientific Atlanta cable remote (it's an Explorer 3100). I can't seem to get any of the commands to work. I get no errors during the learning process but the cable box completely ignores my commands. I've tried getting within a few inches but I don't think range is an issue.

Here's another bit of information: The cable remote is multi-function and is capable of controlling my TV. When I learn a Sony command using the cable remote (such as volume) it controls the TV just fine.

I'd appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction. The cable remote is the one my wife hoards so it's the one I'm most interested in emulating. BTW, I've tried all the Scientific Atlanta profiles and none of them seem to work.

Thanks.

-Mike
Post 2 made on Tuesday April 13, 2004 at 03:51
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When you say you have tried all the SA profiles, are you refering to the ccf files in the files section of this site? or some profile set up on the remote itself?

Just had a look at some of the files fot the 3100, and the frequency is a high one 58254, I wonder if this is a problem.

OP | Post 3 made on Tuesday April 13, 2004 at 12:58
TurbMike
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Thanks for your reply. I was referring to the profiles that came with Total Remote. I'll take a look at the profiles on this site and see what happens.

-Mike
Post 4 made on Tuesday April 13, 2004 at 16:58
Don Stratton
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Hmm. Lacking a SciAtl cable box I will simply analyze the signals in our database using my test equipment and see if they look "normal" or see if I see an obvious error.


Don Stratton
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OP | Post 5 made on Wednesday April 14, 2004 at 08:52
TurbMike
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I appreciate the help. This is certainly not an exhaustive test but I've also tried danderson.ccf (downloaded from this site) with the same results (although once downloaded it claims to support the Ex3300 and not the Ex3100). I'll try more profiles this weekend.

-Mike
Post 6 made on Tuesday April 20, 2004 at 16:32
Don Stratton
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O.K., here is what I found:

Nothing.

That is to say, nothing obviously abberant. Total Remote has four profiles for SciAt cable boxes, and each of them produces very stable and consistent output. Two of the four profiles use a very fast type of signal, but well within Total Remote's capabilities and they always appear to transmit the same bit pattern every time.

So, I am stuck. Lacking any SciAt gear I cannot begin to guess at what the problem might be. It could be that the TR profiles all contain bad codes, but without a SciAt remote control I cannot compare and contrast. It could be TR has good codes and is somehow transmitting them wrong, but I consider this pretty unlikely since the 2.1.333 update where we spent a LOT of time making sure signals came in and went out at the correct timings, and as I said the four profiles TR has all transmit very consistently.

Anyone have any thoughts?


--Don
Post 7 made on Wednesday April 21, 2004 at 03:20
npaisnel
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Mike, create a blank ccf, and learn the codes in to it, then post it here, so we can all see the codes you are getting when learned in TR.
Post 8 made on Friday April 23, 2004 at 20:35
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I just received a Total Remote today, and I've discovered the same thing Mike is seeing, with a twist! I have 3 SA 3100 boxes here, and 1 2200. Using one of the included profiles, I can control 1 of the 3100 boxes. The same profile does nothing on the other 3100s or the 2200.

So, I think the problem lies with the boxes, and not Total Remote. Weird stuff.
Post 9 made on Saturday April 24, 2004 at 04:13
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Can you create a ccf file with codes from each remote, then post it to me, I would be interested to see the differences in the codes. Do the different boxes have different original remotes? or does the same remote control all boxes?

Neil



Post 10 made on Tuesday April 27, 2004 at 08:42
npaisnel
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Dave, are you using TR with the audio device or iPAQ CIR mode?

Post 11 made on Tuesday June 1, 2004 at 08:56
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I have no experience with PDA remotes but SA boxes have a higher than usual carrier frequency at 57142 which could be a problem.
Post 12 made on Saturday June 12, 2004 at 11:43
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I was able to control the SA boxes with PDAWin TV Remote. I learned some codes into a ccf through PDAWin, and could control all my boxes using PDAWin. That ccf, using TR, would only control 1 of my boxes.

Using codes learned through TR, (into another ccf), PDAWin would only control the 1 SA box.

Using those ccfs in TR, I could only control 1 box.

It's been a while since I tested this, but if I recall correctly, I did all TR tests with and without the TR audio IR transmitter.

So it seems the iPAQ can learn and replay the codes correctly, but TR is having trouble...somewhere...but this is just a guess!
Post 13 made on Monday July 12, 2004 at 11:44
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Just spent the weekend programming my entertainment system. Unfortunately, my Explorer 8000 and my Philips DVD (DVP642) are not recognizing my 'learned' signals. Both are recognized when I use PDAWin. I am running Total Remote demo on my Toshiba E310 infrared port.

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I just did some more research. The DVP642 works in native mode but not in ccf mode. The Explorer 8000 is not detecting Total Remote at all.

When I run my ccf file in PDAWin all devices work fine. Please don't take this as a bashing post. I love Don's involvement in the forums and I really want this program to work.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
Al

This message was edited by AER741 on 07/12/04 12:00.
Post 14 made on Monday July 12, 2004 at 15:28
Don Stratton
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On 07/12/04 11:44, AER741 said...
Just spent the weekend programming my entertainment
system. Unfortunately, my Explorer 8000 and my
Philips DVD (DVP642) are not recognizing my 'learned'
signals. Both are recognized when I use PDAWin.
I am running Total Remote demo on my Toshiba
E310 infrared port.

.......................
I just did some more research. The DVP642 works
in native mode but not in ccf mode. The Explorer
8000 is not detecting Total Remote at all.

When I run my ccf file in PDAWin all devices work
fine. Please don't take this as a bashing post.
I love Don's involvement in the forums and I
really want this program to work.

Thanks for thinking of my feelings! I really, really appreciate it! Maybe in the not too distant future I will not visibly flinch when I see a user complaining about Total Remote in a discussion forum... but not today. ;)

This "works in TVRC, not in Total Remote" thing has prompted us to totally gut and replace the core of our IR-handling code. I know that TVRC does learn and transmit signals that Total Remote appears currently incapable of handling. The IR core re-do is meant to address this.

When you say "The DVP642 works in native mode but not in ccf mode" do you mean Total Remote can learn and transmit the IR signal in native mode but NOT in CCF mode?


--Don
Post 15 made on Monday July 12, 2004 at 16:42
AER741
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On 07/12/04 15:28, Don Stratton said...
When you say "The DVP642 works in native mode
but not in ccf mode" do you mean Total Remote
can learn and transmit the IR signal in native
mode but NOT in CCF mode?

That is correct; but only for my dvd player. Let me know if you would like me to do any beta testing for the future release.

I ordered my total remote last night/early morning. Will my registration work with the next update?

Thanks,
Al


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