Just dropped my TSU2000. Screen all messed up. CCF includes discreet codes for my system. Trying to decide. Buy a TSU3000 and get on with it. OR Buy IPAQ 36xx,37xx or 38xx and load with PDAWIN for about the same price. Looking for advice, gotcha's or ???

look at the threads of the last few weeks.
Same questions have popped up.

Don't buy an IPAQ 36xx,37xx,38xx (I have 3800)if you want to use the CF extender (reccomended!!!).
Buy a PDA with cf slot allready included (otherwise you need an expansion pack = big & clumsy.
Axim for example which seems to be a good combination with ultramote extender and PDAwin.

Best is a Pronto though !!!! See old threads like this one
[Link: remotecentral.com]
go back in time and read them. Lots of info there!

A Pronto is a rip-off.
Do not listen to these people.
Think for yourself,use common sense.
The people telling you to buy a Pronto probably paid
$700-$1000 for a Pronto Pro.

If you go the iPAQ route be prepared for a lot of problems. The only software that will be able to use your old ccf files is PDA Win TV remote Controller, which is not capable of reproducing repeat codes, and learns codes from original remotes very poorly.

See any of my replies in previous threads on this forum regarding PDAs, macros, and PDA Win TVRemote software.

It has the potential to be a great bit of software, but as yet cannot compete. I bought a 5450 and PDA win to replace a Pronto Pro. Certain devices it can't even learn from the original remote and replay them correctly, and I am not talking repeat codes here, just the basics lilke power toggle, channel numbers etc.

Listen to buxe, pronto def the way to go

I have been using a Ipaq 3650 with the PDAWIN software for about six months,and have experienced
NONE of the problems you have mentioned in your previous post.
As for not being able to repeat codes,it works fine in you asign the code to a hard botton.
Why would you want to asign a repeating code to anything but a hard button?
By the way I read your reply on my remote control,try doing that with a Pronto.

I don't want to turn this into a PDA vs Pronto crusade, but I think one needs to compare advantages and disadvantages of both systems objectively:
I have a IPAQ3800,with IR extender(Ultramote, works fine!) AND I have a RU940(=TSU2000).

1)price: PDA wins! (but my RU 940 cost me 350€ which is roughly 420$ 2 years ago. You can find them at e-bay at far lower price)
2)colour: PDA wins at least in my case(RU 940 is grayscale)
3)PDAwin sofware is a weak link in the eqaution. No macro side (ie no possibility to use that for "back" button), no full functionality above panel nr.49=no hard buttons on panels higher nr.49! Have a cd changer or a little more stuff in your home, and you are hitting a serious limitation. That's my biggest disappointment with PDA. This is not the hardwares fault but software. Just waiting for NETREMOTE ([Link: netremote.org] to work with "normal" IR!!!! I downloaded it and hope they soon will put PDAwin out of business. Then PDA will take a giant leap forward in attractivity!
4)"...and have experienced
NONE of the problems you have mentioned in your previous post..." I have a 95% working CCF, but some IR codes just have more difficulty than Pronto. If your're lucky though, your equipment at home has codes which work 100% with PDAwin. My Sony STR-DB940 Receiver for example, is the black sheep among my hifi/home theatre. It just doesn't like my IPAQ/PDAwin...
All others work fine with the IPAQ
5)I beleive that a Pronto is more resistant to everyday falling-from-sofa-oops-the-kid-took-it-shit-the-coke-landed-on-it kind of mishaps. I have a new IR ultramote extender on my IPAQ with 2 "bubbles" sticking out, and am sceptic as to how long they will last...(this is opinion, not fact though)
6)Do you need repeat codes other than on hard buttons? If so, PRONTO
7)If you want only one device for remote and agenda, then PDA is your baby.

If you want THE BEST in remoting buy a Pronto/Marantz
If the price is to high, you can buy a used TSU2000 for example. It's not as flashy as a colour PDA but is if you're honest a much better remote. It's flawless and ROBUST.
If you never owned a Pronto and go directly to PDA you still will get one hell of a remote and wont know the features you're lacking. On the other hand you then probably won't miss them either...

I hope this lines add clarity rather than confusion!

It would seem a lot depends on what equipment you have.
Two bits of kit that I have had problems with are Grundig TV, and a Mission CD player. PDA Win will simply not learn the IR from the original remotes. I eventually got hold of a 2 in1 universal remote, coded it to work the Grundig, and then learned the codes from that into PDAWin. From there I could decode them, find the protocol, and then produce complete set of codes for the device.
I am not saying PDA Win will not work, just that in my experience it is a hell of a lot of work, when the software should just learn the codes diorect from the original remote. At one point I suspected the iPAQ of being faulty, but loading up Novii remote, I could learn IR codes from original Grundig remote no problem.
So it is definetly a buggy piece of software, you may be lucky with the kit you have, you may not.

Buxe
You just do not know what the hell you are talking about.
There is no 49 panel limit,check previous posts.
Your suggesting giving up color for the Trival and fictious reasons you mention?
You know what it is time to say what I have been thinking for quite awhile.
1)Daniel Tonks is a shill for the Phillips corporation.
2)People who bought Prontos are people who crave being part of a group, or community as you like to call it in Pronto Land and are blinded by that need.

Guess what The EMMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES ON and the PRONTO is a ripoff.
The final tip-off that Tonks is in this JUST for the money was the fact that he asked for people to send him money for his latest Pronto design.
This site has become what it is,and generates the money from sponsors(Phillips being #1)because of the people who have contributed and shared their efforts in making Pronto configurations.
Did Tonks pay anybody else for their efforts?
I realize I am wasting my cyber breath here,and will be a hated person by the people in your LITTLE cult,but better that then a mindless sheep.
Flame away,because I realize that if I feel the way I do about the guy who runs this site I should not frequent it.
I am sure your little cult will be glad to see me go,because the light really hurts them there SHEEP eyes.
Addios
The DANIMAL

This message was edited by danimal3 on 12/05/03 08:13.

danimal3: you really need to go for some anger management, it cannot be too healthy.

HI DANIMAL,
BE CONSTRUCTIVE AND EXPLAIN TO ME HOW TO ELIMINATE THE 49 PANEL/DEVICE LIMITATION!
BELEIVE ME I DON'T HAVE A CLUE.I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO PROVE ME WRONG!
WHAT PREVIOUS POSTS?

BY THE WAY, DO YOU HAVE BOTH PDA AND PRONTO?
IF NOT, TRY BOTH OUT!

IS PRONTO WORTH THE PRICE? I DON'T KNOW, BUT IF THEY WERE GIVEN FOR FREE I'D CHOOSE ANY TIME THE PRONTO. THIS NOT BEEING THE CASE, I BELEIVE PDA+PDAWIN IS A VALID ALTERNATIVE BUT IT REQUIRES SOME COMPROMISING IN PERFORMANCE. MAYBE THE DRAWBACK IS SMALLER THAN THE COST DIFFERENCE BUT THAT IS A MATTER OF TASTE (=INDIVIDUAL)
NOW PLEASE LET ME KNOW ABOUT THIS 49 PANEL THING. DO YOU HAVE FACTS? WHICH WAS THE OTHER POST? CAN'T FIND IT. DO YOU HAVE A FUNCTIONING CCF >49 PANELS/DEVICES? CAOULD I SEE IT. IF THATS THE CASE I'LL BE VERY GLAD TO RETRACT MY PREVIOUS WORDS, BUT UNTIL THEN BELEIVE ME OUT THERE, THERE IS A LIMITATION OF 49 PANELS.

There is some activity at Girder dealing with creating a HTML page that executes commands and outputs them through an IR Blaster.

The pages can be viewed via any wireless device; PDA, SD, Laptop, iPronto, etc. and can be a part of a home automation system.

Aside from using a PDA like that, I would recommend the Pronto over any PDA, including NEVO, simply on the basis of programmability and IR output power.

Using a PDA as a full-featured universal remote when there are real super-remotes like Pronto available is sort of like using an industrial heat gun to make toast.

It will work, but it really isn't in its element.

Download a sophisticated .PCF like Daniel's and run the emulator on PENG to see what Pronto does compared to a PDA.