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PDA-ir on Compaq Ipaq 3950
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Post 1 made on Thursday September 5, 2002 at 05:47
kennrc
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I've asked the following question at laser.com:

> I'm interested in the PDA-IR - CF IR Extender.
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> Will this product work on a Compaq Ipaq 3950 installed with PDAWin.com's
> "TV Remote Control 5.0" ???

I got the following reply:

"Yes, the PDA-ir should work fine with the iPAQ series."

I've read some of the posts on this forum, in which it is stated, that the Electric Dog IR-module does not work with the 39xx-series.

Which is true ?
Post 2 made on Thursday September 5, 2002 at 06:31
Dave Houston
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What you read here is true. PDA-ir is currently not supported by TV Remote Control software.
Post 3 made on Thursday September 5, 2002 at 09:08
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I can also confirm that it does not work & it is a software related issue from what I have been told.

If anyone finds a solution for this problem could they please share it around.

The electric dog extender works really well with earlier models. I have tested it & it made it even more infutiating that it is not supported.

I will have to leave the IR extender in the draw until it is supported on the 3900 series. Does anyone know if the ultramote extender is compatible.
Post 4 made on Thursday September 5, 2002 at 19:57
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Darn...

I just got the PDA-ir and it doesn't work! I came here to see what was up and here I am.

Please fix this cause Nevo is really not that good...better yet find a hack for the consumer ir chip.
Post 5 made on Friday September 6, 2002 at 03:23
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I think that a lot of people will get caught out buying the Remote Extender. It may be an idea to contact PDA Win & voice your concern. If a lot of people do this they may make it a priority. If they are to support the newer series of iPaq's the software is pretty much useless unless the Extender becomes compatible.

If you have been caught out buying the Electic Dog IR extender voice your concern & it may be resloved sooner rather than later. Even the Nevo IR is not that good, the Electric Dog IR is the one that we really want to get made compatible. I have seen it working on older iPaq's & it is very good.
Post 6 made on Sunday September 8, 2002 at 16:36
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I got my 3950 yesterday and I'm also very disappointed. The NEVO software is useless in my opinion and even it's IR is not satifactory, at least if you don't live in a shoe box.
TVRemote doesn't really work on this one because of 2 reasons:
1. I think it's not really tested with this PDA. It hung several time when repeating with the hardware keys.
2. The IRDA module is now very much weaker than on the older iPAQs. So even external extenders will not work satisfactory. Internal CF-extenders don't work either so here is my advice: Get an 3800, 3700 or 3600 if you want to use it as a remote. :-((

Wilhelm
Post 7 made on Monday September 9, 2002 at 00:01
hammer995
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Looks like TV Remote 5.1 has been released on 9/5. But it doesn't say anywhere whats new...

[5 Minutes Later...] I installed it and now recognizes the PDA-ir but it still doesn't work. I hit the power button and it locks up on me and I have to soft reset.

Has anybody else tried it yet?

-sonny

This message was edited by hammer995 on 09/09/02 00:16.44.
Post 8 made on Monday September 9, 2002 at 03:24
manc01
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Hi there,

I have also tested it & I can confirm what has been stated above. The new software does recognise the PDA-ir but it still doesn't work at all.

Maybe the fact that it now recognised it is a step forward, I hope so. Maybe someone could e-mail them to get some further info (I am not going to do it again they will be sick of me!!!).

I hope for everyones sake that the issue will be resolved soon otherwise the iPaq H3900 series is not going to be a viable remote control. It aslo will mean that PDA Win will lose out on a lot of money.

In my opinion even if the Nevo IR could be unlocked it still is not good enough. The electric dog extender is very powerful in comparison.

Lets get some more info & get it posted here.

Post 9 made on Monday September 9, 2002 at 04:02
Wilhelm
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I agree. PDAWin should get their homework done. There are so many bugs and all they do is add new features. (I think the 5.1 release is for LOOX support)

I also emailed them several times but there is nothing but promises.

Wilhelm
Post 10 made on Wednesday September 11, 2002 at 05:44
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Hi there everyone........

I have a HP Jornada 568 and am hoping to use it as a remote........although I might get an (old) 38XX Ipaq to use purely as a remote since I use the 568 for work also. I purchased the IR extender in the hope that it would work with the Ipaq. Unfortunately it does not.....I emailed PDA Win weeks and weeks ago about this........and so far I have not yet received a reply!
I dont expect one either now, since the Jornada is no longer. Wouls still have been courteous of them to send a reply though methinks........after all they have my money!!

I am hanging on before I purchase am Ipaq in the hope that they will support the new 39XX series.....but I might have to take the plunge and buy an older one before they become unobtainable.......here in the UK prices are already dropping in order to off-load old stock.

Andrew

Post 11 made on Wednesday September 11, 2002 at 14:09
Dave Houston
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On 09/11/02 05:44.39, Drewzel said...
I have a HP Jornada 568 and am hoping to use it
as a remote... I purchased the IR extender
in the hope that it would work with the Ipaq.
Unfortunately it does not

I believe you purchased the extender to work with the Jornada. It will work fine with the iPAQ H31xx, H36xx, H37xx, or H38xx.
Post 12 made on Wednesday September 11, 2002 at 16:32
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Hello Dave.......

Yes...you are right........thats what i meant to say.....I bought the IR extender in the hope that it would work with the Jornada..........Doh!!

Get me some more of that brain food!!

Many thanks for pointing out my error!

Andrew
Post 13 made on Thursday September 12, 2002 at 08:36
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Atleast they now acknowledge the incompatibility on the pdawin.com website.

I hope that this is a simple software change. What about the other CF devices?? How come they can claim compatibility (i.e. memory, wi-fi) with 39xx. Please educate me.
Post 14 made on Thursday September 12, 2002 at 10:16
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Would you pay as much for an IR extender as you pay for Wi-Fi, memory, etc.?

Actually, it would end up costing far more as the market for IR extenders is miniscule. Adding an MCU would also entail about $6000 worth of FCC tests. The market isn't big enough to recover that.
Post 15 made on Thursday September 12, 2002 at 11:31
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Mr. Houston,

The cost is not the concern here. The concern is that other companies that deal with 39xx expansion can say that they support the wiring, pinout, whatever for their devices. Since this is somewhat a simple device (not nearly as complicated as wifi, mem, etc..), amplifying IR, the interface should be as simple too. If there is a wide difference in the 39xx expansion then that limitation would be projected to the other companies as well. As far as I know, my wifi from netgear, is compatible out of the box for the 39xx. As a matter of fact the netgear website says this:

Compaq iPAC 3870, 3865, 3875

heck, its not even spelled right. But I bought it and it works like a charm. The expansion pack is not explicitly made for the 39xx. Therefore implying backward compatibility. There was a post saying that the 39xx has some wiring differences therefore the incompatibility between TV Remote and PDA-ir. I'm just saying, if this is indeed the case, which I don't doubt, then it would effect everybody making expansion cards, right?.

That's just what I'm thinking.
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