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Is Using iPad/iPhone As Remote The New Trend?
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Post 16 made on Tuesday August 11, 2015 at 22:13
Mac Burks (39)
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On August 8, 2015 at 19:37, Wozman said...
No, but was the system programmed with multiple iPad interfaces? If not, then when you login to the processor you are downloading the same config as the clients iPad, and it will follow what is happening on that one (page flips, wakeup...).

System has 19 zones with an iPad in each zone. We have the control room set as a zone (speakers and display installed) so that we can test and monitor. It's not likely the client is in the control room or has selcted the control room from the rooms list on his iPad.

What i experienced had to be something weird with the iPad, iOS or the Crestron app.
Post 17 made on Sunday October 18, 2015 at 18:50
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personally I feel a hard button remote with an touch lcd is the best solution in an area that will have a lot of watching hours racking up.

having a touch only is pretty gay and here is why. With a hard buttons you really do learn the remote quite well with time and you don't have to even look at it to perform common tasks like volume up/down, ch +/-, pause/play/fwd/rwd. You can pretty much nail it every time without looking.

Having to look down at a touch screen all the time for the proper button is not imho the best user experience.

So no questions asked a dedicated hybrid remote in each area where your going to spend some time watching video.

I also love having my iPhone programmed to control the entire house but I sure wouldn't want it as my sole method. Not a chance.

I have also lost much interest in using ipads over control manufacturer branded touch screens. By the time I deal with keeping ipads charged, the mounting frame (and most mounts aren't as nice as flush looking in the wall as the dedicated touchscreens and that's big to me I like a flush clean look) the costs are almost right in line with a dedicated screen. Depending on the mount and charging solution it could be more. Then add in setup time and zero margins and how ipads won't automatically wake when you walk up to them. Then the constant resolution changes and programming work required to accommodate all them... I've pretty much written them off. I am happy with RTI's in wall solutions and the variation in sizes and i'd pick them over ipads for sure in most situations.
Post 18 made on Thursday January 7, 2016 at 11:03
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First time reply to any postings on this forum, have been an avid reader of many posts as I have been searching for ways to *ditch* my Prodigy (crestron) environment due to horrible dealer issues. The reason I felt compelled to answer this particular thread vs others is ... YES as a home user (not a dealer, nor an installer) I have started using the manufacturer provided apps for my devices connected to my home theater. All of my devices (cable box, Apple TV, Sony Receiver, Sony TV, and XBOX One) are networked, have their own apps freely available on the app store and as such I do not require the use of my Prodigy PMC-2, and PTX3 remote- again mainly due to horrible support issues with my dealer that made me start searching for alternatives.
I voted with my finger (grin), and started using those apps. Granted the apps are individualized for the manufacturer component vs the PTX-3 remote that bundled everything from a programmatic standpoint, but I have faith that I will find some piece of technology that will allow ME to program my systems and bundle them back together in a much cheaper and controllable fashion than what my dealer offered. Because is that not what we strive to achieve, control? To re-use from The Matrix, I took the red pill and un-plugged.
Post 19 made on Thursday October 13, 2016 at 12:12
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i am trying to do the same with control 4
Post 20 made on Monday November 21, 2016 at 17:52
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On October 18, 2015 at 18:50, gerard143 said...
personally I feel a hard button remote with an touch lcd is the best solution in an area that will have a lot of watching hours racking up.

Exactly. I think the touchstone here is this: will someone use the remote so little that they have to look at it anyway, or learn it so well that they can use it by feel?

having a touch only is pretty gay and here is why.

You didn't explain how that has anything to do with gay.

With a hard buttons you really do learn the remote quite well with time and you don't have to even look at it to perform common tasks like volume up/down, ch +/-, pause/play/fwd/rwd. You can pretty much nail it every time without looking.

That is true and there's another issue. Take the humble DirecTV remote (the older white ones) or a TiVo remote. On that one surface you have not only the cursor pad, but also transport controls.

On a complete touchpad you might have the cursor pad off-screen, but not the transport controls. And on remotes such as URC, the transport controls have been harder for me to learn than on a DirecTV remote. I can't tell you why. The Marantzes laid out like the RC5200 had a cursor pad offscreen, but again, you had to have the transport controls on another surface.

Having to look down at a touch screen all the time for the proper button is not imho the best user experience.

It is definitely the best user experience for, say, a conference room where nobody is going to learn to operate the remote without looking! In fact it will probably be easier to use there than a button-only remote. When there's precious little touchscreen, it only gets used for oddball or real important stuff.

I have also lost much interest in using ipads over control manufacturer branded touch screens. By the time I deal with keeping ipads charged, the mounting frame (and most mounts aren't as nice as flush looking in the wall as the dedicated touchscreens and that's big to me I like a flush clean look) the costs are almost right in line with a dedicated screen. Depending on the mount and charging solution it could be more. Then add in setup time and zero margins and how ipads won't automatically wake when you walk up to them. Then the constant resolution changes and programming work required to accommodate all them... I've pretty much written them off. I am happy with RTI's in wall solutions and the variation in sizes and i'd pick them over ipads for sure in most situations.

Yeah, iPads are squeezed into those applications. They're not a good fit.
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Post 21 made on Tuesday April 18, 2017 at 02:57
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Has anyone considered making their own ui with tools like http://creator.ionic.io or http://webflow.com ? Getting a mobile app in the app stores is a hassle, but hosting a web page from a raspberry pi or other mini computer is pretty straightforward.
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