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Post 31 made on Wednesday February 3, 2016 at 12:25
Mac Burks (39)
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On January 31, 2016 at 17:42, Bubby said...
Because it is a slippery slope. And it happens with more than just guns when the government gets involved. Take the EPA for example. The clean water rules were for navigable waterways. Now they are trying to regulate farmers who have ponds on their land.

Regulation doesn't just happen for no reason. Traffic lights and seat belt laws are here because people couldn't handle it themselves. If the EPA is trying to regulate farmers who have ponds i would wager its because farmers with ponds are allowing something to happen that shouldn't.

For me to be comfortable with with any changes to gun laws, there needs to be a constitutional amendment that spells out all the rights of citizens. For example, it would need to state in plain language that citizens are allowed to possess guns and then it can add in the controls that are needed.

Actually the government does a horrible job of this. Most guns in Chicago are sold in a small number of gun stores in NW Indiana. Straw buyers purchase them and resell them to gang members. This is what needs to be stopped. New laws won't change anything if they aren't enforced more than the current ones are, or in this case, aren't.

This is because there are no real consequences for straw buyers. Currently you just say "oops, someone stole it" and thats it. There should be consequences for being so careless that someone was able to steal your firearm. 2nd offense should cause you to lose your ability to own guns. 3rd should be mandatory jail time because its obvious you are a criminal or too stupid to lock your guns up.

As for citizens wanting to own guns the government doesn't know about, lets face it, some people don't trust our government and in many cases, it is for good reason.

Whats the plan for these guns? Nothing legal for sure. This makes the owners of these guns criminals or future criminals.
Post 32 made on Wednesday February 3, 2016 at 12:48
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On February 3, 2016 at 12:25, Mac Burks (39) said...
Regulation doesn't just happen for no reason. Traffic lights and seat belt laws are here because people couldn't handle it themselves. If the EPA is trying to regulate farmers who have ponds i would wager its because farmers with ponds are allowing something to happen that shouldn't.

Maybe in some cases. Read this:
[Link: trib.com]



This is because there are no real consequences for straw buyers. Currently you just say "oops, someone stole it" and thats it. There should be consequences for being so careless that someone was able to steal your firearm. 2nd offense should cause you to lose your ability to own guns. 3rd should be mandatory jail time because its obvious you are a criminal or too stupid to lock your guns up.

Yes, straw buyers should be locked away. Current law allows for 10 years and $250K fine. It's not being enforced. So why would any new guns laws be enforced any better? My thoughts are to enforce the current ones to the fullest extent, THEN see where we need to go.

If you want to make a new gun law, start with any violent gun crime requires a min 5-year stay in Federal Prison, no pleas allowed.


Whats the plan for these guns? Nothing legal for sure. This makes the owners of these guns criminals or future criminals.

I am not planning on doing anything illegal nor becoming a future criminal. Not all gun owners are criminals. In fact 99.9% aren't.
Post 33 made on Wednesday February 3, 2016 at 15:03
Archibald "Harry" Tuttle
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I only purchase guns when no background check is involved. It's nobody's business what kind of guns (or how many) I own.

Last edited by Archibald "Harry" Tuttle on February 3, 2016 17:33.
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Post 34 made on Wednesday February 3, 2016 at 15:52
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On February 3, 2016 at 15:03, Archibald "Harry" Tuttle said...
I only purchase guns when no background check is involved. It's nobodies business what kind of guns (or how many) I own.

Exactly!
Post 35 made on Saturday June 4, 2016 at 00:20
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On February 3, 2016 at 15:03, Archibald "Harry" Tuttle said...
I only purchase guns when no background check is involved.

Is that because they wouldn't let you have the gun if they did the background check? Maybe due to some mental health issue or something?
Post 36 made on Monday June 13, 2016 at 16:25
Mac Burks (39)
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On February 3, 2016 at 15:03, Archibald "Harry" Tuttle said...
I only purchase guns when no background check is involved. It's nobody's business what kind of guns (or how many) I own.

You and the gang members in Chicago have something in common.
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