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OT- Trump...vote for him if he runs as independent?
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OP | Post 31 made on Wednesday September 16, 2015 at 21:06
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Lindsay Graham seems to have one the kiddie table debate.
Post 32 made on Wednesday September 16, 2015 at 21:06
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TED NUGENT and his right wing blatant propaganda. I can't believe anyone would even bring that idiot's name up!!!!

Draft-dodging coward. He sh*t his pants anf feigned insanity to avoid going to Nam, because he was such a coward.

Interesting that NOW he is Mr. tough-guy... got my guns, and I love America. Total hypocrite------and his music SUCKED!

Washed up rock star white supremist human zero.

That list of all of the "democratic mass killers" is pure BS. BTW, the Republicans killed the Kennedy's.
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OP | Post 33 made on Wednesday September 16, 2015 at 21:07
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On September 16, 2015 at 21:00, Fins said...
And to say any president deserved to get shot, is about the most classless thing someone could say. Real nice

I think the most classless thing someone could say is a story about Iraq having anything to do with 9/11 that led to thousands of dead Americans and tens of thousands of dead Iraqis and the rise of ISIS.

George W Bush deserves to die.
OP | Post 34 made on Wednesday September 16, 2015 at 21:36
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Christie with a sucker punch to Donald and Carly. No one cares about your careers.
Post 35 made on Wednesday September 16, 2015 at 21:42
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Mac, I have few friends and customers who went to Iraq, thinking they were doing the right thing only to come back, totally pissed about being lied to, and injured permanently and or having serious PTSD --- all so Cheney and Halliburton could earn billions. Two of my son's friends never came back.

It was clearly an effort to do an Oil Grab, being they were sitting on 27 Trillion dollars of oil. Bush and friends had arranged oil contracts there with about 25 to 30 oil companies.

It all contributed to one of the biggest money drains and sh*t storms for the U.S. since Nam, where I also lost a few friends and many of my friends came back totally screwed-up for life.

Bush commented that Gawd (GOD) told him to wage war there.

This is why I am so fearful of some bible thumper like Cruz or Carson or Huckabee in the presidential race, although they have zero chance of winning. That's one thing in Trumps favor---he is not religiously brain-washed, but I would fear what he would create for us as a president.

To see guys here saying they are buying ammunition to protect themselves from the government???

Shades of Jade-Helm.

Idiocracy abounds.
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Post 36 made on Wednesday September 16, 2015 at 23:56
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On 1442454177, Mr. Stanley said..
To see guys here saying they are buying ammunition to protect themselves from the government???

If your talking about me,I'm NOT buying ammo to protect me from OUR Government.

It's to protect me from all of the terrorists our Government is unwilling to recognize,is unwilling stop,and is letting cross into or boarders with a hand shake and a smile!
Every day is a good day.......some are just better than others!
Post 37 made on Thursday September 17, 2015 at 00:23
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The real terrorists are the bigots and racists and white supremecy groups. ISIS hasn't cut off any of my neighbors heads here yet, or shot up schools.

Mexicans have not threatened me or my loved ones... they just do our dirty work, for cheap, send money back to their families and loved ones, and work their asses off because they cannot collect welfare. Welfare is mostly collected by souther white trash.

Meanwhile, I sit back and watch the frustrated Conservatives, tryiong to do everything in their power to sabatage Obama.

Ben Carson is black, but I guess since he is a Republican, it's OK? But Obama???? Nooooooooo. Hes an evil Democrat. A muslim, a Libturd. Well lets see... Bin Laden is dead, Saddam Hussein was captured, we are getting out of two wars, the stock market is up, gas is cheap, he has spent less than the last three presidents, unemployment is down, he averted a massive depression / recession, he saved the auto industry... I know the Conservatives here will dispute all of this... Most importantly he is not a bible thumper, believing Gawd will fix everything. Bush said God told him to invade Iraq. Oh, and you still have your guns, and he did not send you to the Walmart stores in Texas and lock you up.

What have the Republicans done for the middle class in the last 10 - 15 years or so that benefits us??? NOTHING----N O T H I N G, so why do people vote against their own best interests? Low information.
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Post 38 made on Thursday September 17, 2015 at 02:09
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I've seen comments SEVERAL times on Conservative boards about shooting Obama.

Seems a lot of folks are still angry that he is black, and in the "WHite - House". Isn't Ben Carson black, or even blacker? Hmmmmm

I agree, it's classless, horrible and wrong. I hated Bush but would never think about him being killed. His karma will follow him. Same with Cheney and his b*tch of a daughter.
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Post 39 made on Thursday September 17, 2015 at 08:06
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On September 16, 2015 at 21:07, Mac Burks (39) said...
I think the most classless thing someone could say is a story about Iraq having anything to do with 9/11 that led to thousands of dead Americans and tens of thousands of dead Iraqis and the rise of ISIS.

George W Bush deserves to die.

I thought you had more class than this. Wow...
Civil War reenactment is LARPing for people with no imagination.

Post 40 made on Thursday September 17, 2015 at 11:47
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The cognitive dissonance in this thread is deafening.

NO president is fully responsible for what happens when they're in office. Did Obama fixed the economy? No. He may have had an influence, but crediting him for the turnaround is just delusional.

The same with Bush and Iraq. Yes, Bush/Cheney were determined to invade Iraq. They did everything they could to sell it to congress and the public. Instead of intelligently considering the ramifications and reasoning it out the public swallowed the BS and congress went ahead and voted for it.

Would Trump make a good president? By the way he acts it appears that no, he wouldn't. His method of dealing with others may work with Apprentice contestants, but it would be counter productive with Jinping/Putin. One may find his candidness refreshing, but I you think that will go in Washinton DC or the global community, well you really need to take a second look.

I personally believe a good president should understand that they cannot, alone, made the changes that are best for our country or mankind. This has to be done by working with others to generate a consensus. If he/she can convince others that what needs to be done is a good thing, then they will support it. If he/she can only threaten then all they get is resistance.

However with our current political climate none of that may matter. In 2008, with the economy in free fall the republican party had only one goal. It wasn't fixing our reputation abroad. It wasn't keeping people in their homes. It wasn't fixing the banking system so something like that wouldn't happen again. It wasn't helping those who were out of work. It wasn't helping business that couldn't borrow to keep themselves afloat so their employees could buy food to feed their families. It wasn't creating jobs. It was to to whatever it took so that Obama wouldn't get reelected.

I applaud the republican party for being able to set a goal and stick to it. I condemn them for placing partisan politics as that goal and not the country they pretend to love.
Post 41 made on Thursday September 17, 2015 at 12:32
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Here's a simplistic explanation of ISIS.

Lets look at where ISIS comes from. ISIS evolved out of the ongoing religious extremism in the middle east and the instability in Syria and to a lesser extend Iraq. Back when Hussein and Assad were fully in power there was no way an organization like ISIS could have any real influence in Syria or Iraq. Al-Qaeda's power was limited to only those areas where central control was non existent or at most extremely weak. Once a well controlled country starts to disintegrate organizations like ISIS fill the void.

Why? Place yourself in the shoes of a 20 year old man in the middle east. You have little to no job prospects. Your government and society places restrictions on what you can and cannot do, yet via the internet you see the freedom people throughout the world have. You've been told since a small child how many of those things are a sin. You watch a episode of a US TV show that shows a way of life you have no chance of having. Those people have riches, you're lucky if you'll have something to eat before you go to bed. You're jealous, incensed that you cannot have what others take for granted, and conflicted by your religious upbringing. In a world such as that organizations such as ISIS are inevitable.

These problems are created over decades. All deposing a dictator does is create a vacuum and chaos. Something like ISIS fills that vacuum and those 20 year olds without any prospects for a future are glad to have something that will give their life some meaning and a way to soak up some of that anger.

The so called Arab Spring wasn't a call by the masses for democracy.  It was a call for freedom to have a life worth living.  Until that happens Al-Qaeda/ISIS will always exist.  The true fix is to give the youth in those areas a future they can be happy with.  That doesn't come from drones, F16s, or US troops and cannot be fixed in time for the next election.  The US cannot mandate this.  All we can do is help educate the leadership in those countries to the advantages to changing their society and then support them should they choose to make those changes.

Sadly, our partisan political system has no interest in trying to understand the roots of the problem and helping others in fixing it.
Post 42 made on Friday September 18, 2015 at 12:51
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I just wonder how many RC followers believe, like that idiot at the Trump show last night, that Obama is a Muslim... I have my suspicions who they are! Dear Lord!
Or that there are death squads, Jade Helm... all that insane BS...
"If it keeps up, man will atrophy all his limbs but the push-button finger."
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OP | Post 43 made on Friday September 18, 2015 at 16:03
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On September 17, 2015 at 08:06, Fins said...
I thought you had more class than this. Wow...

Anyone with a functioning brain knows that Bush deserves to die.
Post 44 made on Friday September 18, 2015 at 20:08
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A post like that could bring the feds a callin'. Careful.
"If it keeps up, man will atrophy all his limbs but the push-button finger."
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Post 45 made on Friday September 18, 2015 at 23:48
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On August 26, 2015 at 17:00, Mac Burks (39) said...
So far one that i know of maybe two.

Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.

Im sure if either makes it to the election we will find out if there are any skeletons in their closet.

+1


Go Sanders! If any of you dont know much about him, he is the real deal. Been following him since 2007.
"If it keeps up, man will atrophy all his limbs but the push-button finger."
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