Can i have sex with one of your imaginary Brazilian women?

if he said "everybody in the company would be paid exactly $70,000" you would be right but technically someone being paid 100K is being paid 70k you can't get to 100K without passing by 70K first

Anthony, you are literally correct, but as people have pointed out to me, usually the real meaning is not the literal meaning of what was written.

Even I can't imagine someone saying "everybody in the company would be paid $70,000" and meaning "at least $70,000."

In other words:
*someone who is trained to read news without thinking critically about the real world impact of what he's reading
*then formulated an opinion based on what he took away from it
*then you told us about it
*NOT quoting word for word what was said, thus removing the statement one more misquote from the truth.


Are you now stating that things you say simply do not hold up to scrutiny? Okay, I'll go with that, if that's what this objection means.


You did NOT report as it was initiolly reported. You put forth, without quoting (thus injecting any of your lack of understanding of the details), someone's opinion, that someone not being a labor specialist, and the story was about a unique labor and salary issue. Right? That's a lot like the guy I'm now listening to on TV, who's advertising mattresses, commenting on transformer versus resistor type wall-mount speaker level volume controls. Sure, he can do it, but he's an idiot on this particular subject.

For all the invective given Stanley for misstating the information, how many of you took him at his word and didn't verify it from alternate sources yourselves?

I long for the good old days when we never heard about all the greed and corruption.

At least we didn't know just how bad we were being screwed over....


Ignorance is bliss.

Let's talk about greed. This company does what? Credit card processing? And earns how much per year?

There has been a lot of discussion here about doing the right thing for the employees and I'm surprised no one has brought up the actual mission of the company. Profit from credit use. It is the easiest way to suck money out of people who don't have it.

Whose money does a company like this really spread around? Does this business plan really serve the "we the people" model when it's sole purpose helps enable a society that can't spend within their means? Personally I don't care if they profit from it, but maybe the way the CEO earns this money should be factored in before he's touted the king of kindness.

Average American household credit card debt: $15k.

I know ;)

|but as people have pointed out to me, usually the real meaning is not the literal meaning of what was written.
I think you mean the real perception (what someone understands) is not the literal perception (what is actually meant). The real meaning is the literal meaning because that was what was meant.



that is how I took it from the get go. For me it would be insane if

1) every other employee other than the boss made under 70k (including the rest of the top brass)

2) the guy would make a big announcement in front of everyone and he would tell the guy that used to make under 40K that he would get a huge raise while the guy making over 100k that he would be getting a huge pay cut. The huge raise part can be made in public but a huge pay cut needs to be made on a one to one basis.

Don't get me wrong, I think a bit more precision can often be beneficial because I there are people that will automatically jump to the most ridiculous conclusions. But on the other hand you can't make anything fool proof because you will always find a bigger fool to prove you wrong.

I never take him at his word. I think most feel the same way. I just wasn't interested in the story to try to look it up.

I knew (without reading the article) that Bruce was wrong because it didn't make sense. Keep in mind that i do not regularly take mind altering drugs or wake up naked in the neighbors tool shed, after a crazy Seattle bar crawl...so it's harder to get me to believe things like that....but...i had to troll his communist ramblings. I am an American and Bill Clinton won the cold war and i don't care for commie shenanigans.

So, the credit card companies are horrible, because they charge people, to be loaned money? I find that laughable. It wouldn't be laughable if the banks were holding a gun to their head, and saying, you must pay for credit, or we won't let you live, but that isn't the case.

The average american household credit card debt is 15K, because the average american doesn't know the difference between the words "want" and "need". While living in a nice affluent suburb of north Dallas, I was surprised by my neighbors admission. He was saying how they were selling their home and moving back to Louisiana, and he wasn't sure if they'd have enough cash in the short term to cover their expenses. This was someone who worked for a huge soft drink company here in the US, and was likely pulling in a salary of $150-$200K a year.

How do you do that, and not have 6 months of living expenses sitting in an account? By spending every penny you make on things you "want" rather than things you "need". When I talked with him more, I asked about cutting back on expenses for a bit, so as to lighten the load. He assured me there was nothing that could be done. Of course as we discussed he was subscribed to HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, etc via DirecTV. Of course they couldn't drop any cell phones, as his 7 and 9 year old definitely need the newest iPhone and 4G service. These were just the tip of the iceberg, including home delivery services for groceries, laundry and dry cleaning services, and a nanny and maid.

The problem is not the credit card companies, the processors, or them giving too much credit to people. The problem, is that the average American is a spoiled brat who "wants what they want, right now", and will sell their soul to get it, rather than wait until they can afford it.

And when the consumer is ready to sell their soul they can apply for a 19% interest auto loan or a $29% interest credit card and if that doesn't work out there will be a pawn shop owner or pay day loan specialist to assist them with their endeavor.

And if they wait long enough the financial district might get deregulated enough, again, so that when a guy making $12 an hour walks into their office he can get a loan for a $500,000 home...that the bank will gladly take off his hands once the payment has increased, the home owner loses his job and defaults on the loan...which they will then gladly rent it back to him for what his mortgage payment was...after the bank uses tax dollars to get their feet back on the ground.

This is the attitude of the turkey along about mid-October. That, plus gratefulness for all the extra food that is coming his way! WOW, is he one lucky dude!

Then an unusual thing happens, something that never even occurred to him might happen...

but...i had to troll his communist ramblings.


Mac, are you a conservative?



I am an American



Whatever.