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Most popular Crestron touch panels?
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Post 1 made on Wednesday March 15, 2017 at 14:20
gwstudios
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I am currently working on (literally right now) building new smart graphics template pages in Studio and VTPro-e. The iPad and iPhone resolutions are a given, but I would love to know from the CIs and programmers which of the proprietary panels are being used the most.

I am building a 240 x 320, 800 x 480 & 1280 x 800 to start with, but I will add other resolutions as well. The reason for these templates is to have all of the pages pre-made, to save countless hours of UI work, but at the same time, the button libraries can be used to build custom pages and resolutions if needed.

I appreciate any input on this, as I want to make these cover as many panels as possible. I already made a list based on current available panels, but a couple oddball resolutions only cover a single touch panel and I am not sure if they are popular choices, or may be at the end of their cycle in the product line.

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Post 2 made on Wednesday March 15, 2017 at 20:34
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560, 760, 1060 are the panels. Only resolution you have is the 1280x800.

240x320 and 800x480 are good for some of the panels but most will be gone within the year. 240x380 panels won't do Smart Graphics, even if they say they will.
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OP | Post 3 made on Thursday March 16, 2017 at 11:35
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On March 15, 2017 at 20:34, kgossen said...
560, 760, 1060 are the panels. Only resolution you have is the 1280x800.

240x320 and 800x480 are good for some of the panels but most will be gone within the year. 240x380 panels won't do Smart Graphics, even if they say they will.

Thanks for the info, I really appreciate it.
OP | Post 4 made on Thursday March 16, 2017 at 18:22
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kgossen - I am going to follow your suggestion and have 5 native resolutions for the Crestron touch panels, in addition to the iPad and iPhone.

Interested in doing some testing for me when they are ready? If so, let me know which resolution.
Post 5 made on Monday March 20, 2017 at 07:31
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Is it possible to do a theme in the native resolution of the ipad? Obviously it makes your workspace somewhat difficult on lower res monitors and I'm not sure how well vtpro would handle that size, but the other week I was coding an AMX system with an ipad layout tha was supplied by the client and it was obviously designed to suit the ipads resolution because it was just so clean and crisp. Fine text and icon details were perfect.

We do far more Crestron app projects these days, I guess due to TSW cost, and no matter how good your design looks in vtpro, it always looks soft and fuzzy when you design to the old ipad resolution.

I should actually try and do a quick page or two at the full res and see how it looks. Have a feeling that Crestrons smart graphics themes won't cater for a project of that size though.
OP | Post 6 made on Monday March 20, 2017 at 09:41
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OK, here is what is happening on my end. Since all of my graphics are fully scalable, there should be no reason why I cannot open an iPad Standard test page, and "Save As" a custom resolution at 2X for a Retina iPad.

After I type in the dimensions, add it to list, select it, then give the file a new name, when I reopen it, it is still the same resolution.

Keep in mind, I am not used to the "new" VTPro-e and all of its quirks just yet.

Edit - I got it... and yes, my iPad Standard template graphics scale to Retina automatically if I simply copy them over. Now I just have to figure out why when I re-save the Standard res as Retina, it doesn't take, but I have a way around that now if needed.

Edit #2 - I can create a page in Retina and save it as a standard res with no problem, but not the other way around. So, to answer your question, yes, I can have both Standard and Retina resolution iPad templates. I will simply design the Retina resolution as a custom, then convert that to standard as a new file after it is completed.

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Post 7 made on Monday March 20, 2017 at 12:45
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You know you can just design for the TSW-10XX and be done with it.

You can load a 10" into a 5" and the panel will scale it.
Post 8 made on Monday March 20, 2017 at 13:18
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I don't do retina resolution as file is way to big and clunky.
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OP | Post 9 made on Monday March 20, 2017 at 15:10
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Agreed, but you can set the view to 1/2 size... I'll design for Retina and both will technically be done after a quick conversion. I figured all of this out, finally.

Everything is 9-Slice on my end. Those same Retina iPad buttons can be used on a 240 x 320 screen. The icons scale perfectly.
Post 10 made on Monday March 20, 2017 at 17:07
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On March 20, 2017 at 15:10, gwstudios said...
Agreed, but you can set the view to 1/2 size... I'll design for Retina and both will technically be done after a quick conversion. I figured all of this out, finally.

Everything is 9-Slice on my end. Those same Retina iPad buttons can be used on a 240 x 320 screen. The icons scale perfectly.

That's the beauty of SG, the graphics scale on any screen.

I use 1024 x 768 and works awesome on new iPads with Retina but keeps file size down and makes it much easier to work on in VTPro.
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OP | Post 11 made on Monday March 20, 2017 at 18:07
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I like the idea of the Smart Graphics, but they way you have to implement them by building your own theme is a lot of work.

RTI did something similar with their new Apex software, where they use 9-Slice 2 state buttons with icon overlays, except you can drag them directly in from external folders. No need to compile themes and associate graphics with groups etc..

All you need is an UP or DOWN tag in the png file name and a ".9" at the end if they are scalable. Any non tagged graphics are automatically icons that will sit on top of a 2 state button when dragged in. Super simple and easy to bring in new graphics.


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