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Will a Higher Pefomances computer help SB compiling/building/loading times???
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Post 46 made on Monday November 15, 2010 at 20:50
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I have the following setup:

Macbook Pro 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4 GB RAM
Windows XP Pro running via VMWare Fusion

It takes 44.3 seconds for SB to open on my machine

Stamp, are your times in a virtual machine or direct XP via bootcamp?
OP | Post 47 made on Monday November 15, 2010 at 20:53
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On November 15, 2010 at 20:11, amirm said...

How do I convert Composer to SB? I am not a composer user :).

Just install Prodigy Composer, open up the composer file and it should open directly to Prodigy Composer. Go to the FINISH tab and check the box (if still there) to "edit in system builder", from there, when you click finish it compiles the system and opens to System Builder.

This is usually the longest process for me.
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Post 48 made on Monday November 15, 2010 at 20:54
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On November 15, 2010 at 20:43, amirm said...
That's a mystery then. How about upgrading to the latest version I have? Can't imagine it slowing things down but would be nice to know that one variable is out of the way.

I updated both systems yesterday. I have the latest version. There was a typo above.

One thing that may make a difference is how you get your crestron software. I use system builder master installer. These are my software versions.

Version:3.09.31
Build:20100812:1
Crestron Database:23.05.010.00
Device Database:31.00.003.00
SIMPL Windows Engine:2.12.44
Device Library:685
Templates:3.10.005.00 (Destiny:Black-Blue)
VisionTools Pro-e:4.2.12
Toolbox:1.22.109
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Post 49 made on Monday November 15, 2010 at 20:56
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On November 15, 2010 at 20:50, tweeterguy said...
I have the following setup:

Macbook Pro 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4 GB RAM
Windows XP Pro running via VMWare Fusion

It takes 44.3 seconds for SB to open on my machine

Stamp, are your times in a virtual machine or direct XP via bootcamp?

I partitioned most of the drive for win7 via boot camp. I have vmware and xp on the mac side but i never use them because win7 works with everything so far. I havent booted mac os since last winter.
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Post 50 made on Monday November 15, 2010 at 21:41
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Ahhh. If i load SB in that manner (via bootcamp) it's done in 32.7 seconds.
OP | Post 51 made on Monday November 15, 2010 at 22:14
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My desktop isn't much slower than stamps machine as far as CPU goes, but I am running Vista.

I have a copy of W7 to upgrade but ran out of storage on my external drive. Even though all my media is an a separate HDD in my PC along with backups to all my biz stuff. I still wnat back everything up outside of the PC just to be safe. We use Mozy for regular backup, but that's last case resort.

Some I'm wondering if W7 alone will be the increase in performance i need. My laptop from Crestron still sucks and will have to be replaced.
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Post 52 made on Monday November 15, 2010 at 23:40
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On November 15, 2010 at 22:14, sofa_king_CI said...
Some I'm wondering if W7 alone will be the increase in performance i need. My laptop from Crestron still sucks and will have to be replaced.

When an application becomes CPU-bound, by definition it is spending all of its time in that app and not the OS. As such, it is very doubtful switching over to Win7 will make any difference.

All the times I have reported are on Win7 BTW.

Edit: The above is an oversimiplification. It is possible to have an app be CPU bound and spend all of its time in the operating system. But this workload doesn't seem to be of that type.
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OP | Post 53 made on Tuesday November 16, 2010 at 00:23
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On November 15, 2010 at 23:40, amirm said...
When an application becomes CPU-bound, by definition it is spending all of its time in that app and not the OS. As such, it is very doubtful switching over to Win7 will make any difference.

Hmm. Stamp has a 2.53 Ghz Core 2 Duo in his Lenovo and I have a 2.53 Ghz C2D in this desktop as well. I believe they are different cpu's however.

So, do you think its not just teh CPU speed but the quality of the CPU?
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OP | Post 54 made on Thursday December 23, 2010 at 16:21
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I thought I would give my updated times. I'm using the same Prodigy Laptop from crestron. i have upgraded to w7 home premium 64-bit giving me 4gigs ram instaed of 3, and a OCZ SSD.

Composer to SB was 10 Min, Now = 4.8 seconds

Same file Build in SB was 6min 17sec on 2.6gHz pc - this laptop now 12min 34sec

Actually, i think i did those first test on my desktp pc which has 7200 HDD and a 2.66 GHz cpu, where as this laptop is only 2.0GHz cpu. but i think the test still carries some weight.

Systembuilder opening time = 1min 1sec - WAY quicker than before.

So while my laptop runs quicker overall, when it comes time to compile, the 2.0Ghz still sucks. i think this is a Pentium dual core also, so maybe a better 2.0 cpu would do it slightly quicker.

to confrim, while this is dual core, monitorning the CPU usage during compile never went above 55% suggesting that Crestron can only make use of a single core.

so, IMO a 15/17 dual core with a base speed of 2.8 or so and OC up to 3.2-3.5, paired with a SSD would probably yield the best performance running Crestron Software.
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Post 55 made on Thursday December 23, 2010 at 21:16
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Which laptop did you get with the Prodigy? Mine is a Dell Inspiron 1545 and I thought I did a Windows test to confirm it could only support 32 bit?? Didn't look any deeper into it as I'm pretty satisfied with running XP on VMWare Fusion.
Post 56 made on Friday December 24, 2010 at 00:26
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thanks for the update, im going to update my turd of a laptop sometime soon. Compiling and building takes to long and promotes naps on the jobsite :)
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OP | Post 57 made on Friday December 24, 2010 at 02:53
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I've basically become an expert at multi-task installation/programming. Leaving small things to do while programs compile.

Yes my laptop is the Inspirion 1545 - i honestly didn't check to see if it could do 64-bit, i didn't reallize there was a chance it couldn't. So far, so good.

So, if my CPU is a 2.0 GHz, and i get a new laptop with the i5-560m that runs at 2.66 and oc's to like 3.2. Should i expect a 35% increase in performance, or in otherwords, a 35% decrease in compile times?
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Post 58 made on Monday December 27, 2010 at 12:24
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Netlinx Studio opens the biggest file I have ever created in 6 seconds, and compiles the entire workspace (all 12 systems, and all associated files) in 40 seconds. Crappy HP laptop with AMD turion processor, 32-bit Vista, with 3GB RAM.

Opening Crestron software or Crestron compiling is always associated with a coffee break.
Post 59 made on Monday December 27, 2010 at 12:30
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On December 24, 2010 at 02:53, sofa_king_CI said...
I've basically become an expert at multi-task installation/programming. Leaving small things to do while programs compile.

lol

I try my best to have all programming done before i leave my house so that i only have a few system builds to wait for. Assigning commands and macro building are easy for me. The biggest issue i have and where i spend the most time troubleshooting is with the hard button manager. I wish they would improve it so that its easier to navigate. I wish it were a docked, easy to read panel.
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Post 60 made on Tuesday December 28, 2010 at 13:04
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SB compile times are significantly faster for me, since I switched to a Core i5. Last one was a pretty fast dual core AMD. Even in the training class, I was compiled before most others at the time.



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