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Post 16 made on Monday September 20, 2010 at 17:29
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On September 20, 2010 at 15:18, cgav said...
I have a question about the HardButton programming on PTX3's. I keep losing my hard button programming every time it builds. How do I make it where it doesn't overwrite my hard button programming. My vol+ and Vol- is a long variable based on room selection, and it's a real pain in the ass to reprogram every time. I don't understand why it's changing it.

In programming view in SB, what is checked off in the advanced tab of the interface properties?
Post 17 made on Monday September 20, 2010 at 17:48
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I've got both of those things unchecked (rebuild interface and automatically add pages)

But everytime I build and upload the system, it un-does my hard button programming and adds sub-page references which I don't want.
Post 18 made on Monday September 20, 2010 at 18:10
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On September 20, 2010 at 17:48, cgav said...
I've got both of those things unchecked (rebuild interface and automatically add pages)

But everytime I build and upload the system, it un-does my hard button programming and adds sub-page references which I don't want.

You need to have the bottom one " automatically build pages" checked and " Rebuild interface project" unchecked
Post 19 made on Monday September 20, 2010 at 18:19
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all my pages I need are done. Why would I want it to automatically build pages. I want it to do nothing but join the logic i've already done.
Post 20 made on Monday September 20, 2010 at 18:59
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Because you want SB to build your custom logic.

Last edited by Gman-north on September 20, 2010 19:12.
OP | Post 21 made on Monday September 27, 2010 at 19:00
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Okay - another question about Joins.

I am making, well trying to make, a popup lighting page for the room (raise, lower, on/off). I'm trying to make it a as a subpage that could popup when a "LIGHTS" button is pressed from any of the source pages.

In doing this I had to create a button that is for displaying the load name, what is the best practice.

A. To just use the same serial join that the other button (created SB)

OR

B. Give it its own join number, but put the same logic on it  (Linked to Device -> Family Room Lighting -> Load_List_Load_1_Name)

????
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Post 22 made on Monday September 27, 2010 at 19:11
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OP | Post 23 made on Monday September 27, 2010 at 19:31
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Mayber I'm not going about this the best way. System Builder puts a LIGHTS button in the room which when pressed it page flips to the room light page. This is fine, but there isn't a "Back" or "Return"  button, so they client has to press Media, then Dish or whatever again.

Do you normally put RAISE and LOWER lighting control on your source pages? I always did with RTI and URC and love it. I prefer it to be a hard key, but I don't have enough for that.

Can I even create a POPUP style window with control options or are popups more just to show feedback? 

I can just do a page flip I guess and then put a big X or Close button that then returns to where they were.

Thoughts?
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Post 24 made on Monday September 27, 2010 at 19:35
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On September 27, 2010 at 19:31, sofa_king_CI said...
Mayber I'm not going about this the best way. System Builder puts a LIGHTS button in the room which when pressed it page flips to the room light page. This is fine, but there isn't a "Back" or "Return"  button, so they client has to press Media, then Dish or whatever again.

Do you normally put RAISE and LOWER lighting control on your source pages? I always did with RTI and URC and love it. I prefer it to be a hard key, but I don't have enough for that.

Can I even create a POPUP style window with control options or are popups more just to show feedback? 

I can just do a page flip I guess and then put a big X or Close button that then returns to where they were.

Thoughts?

Which interface are you programming this for?
OP | Post 25 made on Monday September 27, 2010 at 20:23
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Post 26 made on Monday September 27, 2010 at 22:30
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On September 20, 2010 at 15:18, cgav said...
I have a question about the HardButton programming on PTX3's. I keep losing my hard button programming every time it builds. How do I make it where it doesn't overwrite my hard button programming. My vol+ and Vol- is a long variable based on room selection, and it's a real pain in the ass to reprogram every time. I don't understand why it's changing it.

I had the same. This seems to be a bug in SB. If you add a complex expression to a hard button press, SB sometimes removes it on rebuild because it thinks some signals are missing. Sometimes assigning an automatic new join number to the button will fix this.

You can try to put the expression into a global preset and call the global preset from the button press. In that case at least its easier to restore the programming if it's gone.

Another way, using the "Persist hard button programming from this page" and on other pages "use the persistent buttons if a previous page enabled them" function on pages makes it easier to program because you only have to set the button programming once and keep the programming across page flips.

If you have a lot of rooms and the volume logic becomes complicated (and you can program SIMPL), its probably far more stable to write a SIMPL logic module for volume control and import it into SB. In this way you can also make a feedback signal (e.g. volume bar per room) if the amp supports feedback on volume.
The next version of my control software will be so great, it will control the world! Or maybe not, in that case wait for the update which should come really soon.
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