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How long does it take to become proficient in Simpl?
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Post 16 made on Monday May 21, 2012 at 23:49
kgossen
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On May 21, 2012 at 22:15, longshot16 said...
Not saying one is easier. System builders black magic affect left a negative feeling.

Are you doing Simpl?

The first thing is NOT letting SB build your pages. The built in logic does not want to be screwed with.

I'm doing it right now in SIMPL and learning. The curve is huge but it's where I want to go. I have a complete Crestron system at home and it's what I use to practice with. I downloaded a bunch of the Demo programs and open up 2 separate SIMPL windows and see what they've done. I feel you need to take the Essentials class and then things start to make a lot more sense and it allowed me to follow and understand what they do. (I also hit the F1 help key ALL the time!) I don't think I could do it without at least a processor to upload to and make sure what you're doing is right.

I still will use SB for the smaller jobs as it's so much faster but SIMPL does allow a lot more control and many SIMPL modules offer a lot more functionality vs their SB counterpart. 

ckleiman wrote: About IP control? What a joke. Don't listen to cpchillin, impact and vince del pino when it comes to this subject because they don't know what they're talking about.

Funny, you're the only one in this thread talking about IP control douchebag. He asked about programming in SIMPL and your entire post has nothing to do with it. I know this must be hard for you but maybe try to stay on point and if you don't have anything constructive to add to the post, stay away.
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Post 22 made on Tuesday May 22, 2012 at 06:54
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On May 21, 2012 at 22:30, ckleiman said...
Dear Longshot, you may want to seriously consider trying AP. No buy in necessary to become a dealer. The product will do most everything Crestron will do. About IP control? What a joke. Don't listen to cpchillin, impact and vince del pino when it comes to this subject because they don't know what they're talking about. I met directly with Crestron management last week and they told me IP control not as reliable as RS232 and do not recommend especially when list of IP devices grows large, therefore, the M1 controller with more RS232 outputs a distinct advantage despite what these individuals may try to say to dissuade. I got this straight from the horses mouth so you can choose to accept or not but that's what Crestron had to say on the subject. As far as getting you up to speed on programming is concerned there's no doubt about it. We've got web browser control with full sync between multiple touch panels and two-way communication between controller and iDevice. I can get u up to speed in no time. No need to pay CAIP. U can do yourself and put the profit in your pocket where it belongs.

MODERATORS and DANIEL:

I think the above post is too much and it is breaking the rules of the forum.

We have a manufacturer representative that is suggesting to a dealer to use its product without the OP asking for an alternative. The OP was asking a specific question on another's system programming. This is product promotion from all angles. Or to say it differently: As RC does not want Creston/AMX/C4/RTI/e.t.c in all the threads to step in and to reccomend their lines and their solutions, RC should not allow this manufacturer to do so.

In addition this manufacturer represenative mentions the capabilities of the other manufacturer and specifically "ip control" and calls it a "joke". This is not only promotion, it is also unethical.

Lastly, he calls some long established members - who I personally and I am sure others here trust and have proven themselves - ignorant and in his own words describes them "they don't know what they're talking about".

I am sorry Daniel and moderators but I think some action is needed from you.
OP | Post 23 made on Tuesday May 22, 2012 at 06:58
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So simpl is hard?

Guess its back to OEM remotes for me. ;-)
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Post 29 made on Tuesday May 22, 2012 at 12:14
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Please continue with less unpaid advertising and personal attacks.
Post 30 made on Tuesday May 22, 2012 at 12:35
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Longshot,

As others have already mentioned taking the essential course will get you the basics in simpl and VT-Pro to be able to program a basic system (the only crappy part is that I believe you have to take the intro to Crestron and SB classes prior to the essentials class now).

One thing that I haven't seen mentioned is using tech support is key. They are there not only for the hardware side but also the software side and I haven't had a bad outcome when on the phone with them when I am programming. They are

As someone else stated reverse engineering the Crestron sample programs is the best way to learn to program in Simpl. There will likely be a lot of symbols that you haven't seen before or understand but all the basic programming will be there.

The more time you have to sit down and work through the programming the easier it becomes and more proficient you will be with it. For basic systems (once you get good at them) you will have them programmed in a matter of a couple hours as I am sure majority of the products you are using will be the same, and for the products that aren't the same it is just a matter of changing a User device rather than having to alter programming, essentially building a template to program from.
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