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Post 1 made on Tuesday October 11, 2011 at 15:47
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So now that you know that it's going Distro.....are you going to continue buying it?

I'll go first :

NO
Post 2 made on Tuesday October 11, 2011 at 15:51
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Yes and no.
Xp processor with pamps until the Crestron part is released.
No more Prodigy after.

I get the feeling they no loner want to compete with C4. Either that or Prodigy wax canabalizing full line sales.
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Post 3 made on Tuesday October 11, 2011 at 17:40
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 I may still buy prodigy but it really depends what they do with it. If the have a PLX-processor package under $1k, depending what the limits are, I Can definitely still sell it, BUT I'd rather have a $800 full line pmc2 or 3 or a mlx+processor at $1200, this can definitely sale.
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Post 4 made on Tuesday October 11, 2011 at 18:10
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IDK yet...probably going to have to say NO, im moving to become a full line crestron dealer, I feel like adagio is slowing being killed off too. This years sales have been either supporting MX980's or full blown crestron systems. Nothing in between.

annoying to say the least.
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Post 5 made on Tuesday October 11, 2011 at 18:38
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 Prodigy has never been able to replace full line, if they provide us full line dealers with a PRICE competitive product then that's what I'll sell. But if it's a low budget job that Crestron can't get into, I still feel that prodigy is an option. I buy RTI and URC from distribution anyway.

In the end, I need a system around $1k-$1200 for processor and handheld. I can upsell most projects to that. They all provide similar desires at that price (RTI,URC,c4). I just need something around that price.

Last edited by sofa_king_CI on October 11, 2011 19:13.
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Post 6 made on Tuesday October 11, 2011 at 19:41
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prodigy will no longer have access to the PTX3… it will only have the PLX3.
you can't program in simpl anymore ( i can't anyway)

and you are more sandboxed then ever before …
that being said, it will have its place for lower end av firms.

crestron is making a crestron branded equivalent for the entire prodigy brand at roughly the same price point, and those products will play well with the entire crestron line.

the only problem i have is that they are *so far* not bundling processors and remotes together for a better price like they do with prodigy…
so a MC3 and a MTX-3 are way more then a PMC3+ PAK

we've been trying to avoid prodigy like the plague since it was announced, but can't avoid it for smaller projects with smaller budgets. i.e. single room, never going to expand systems … for around $1200

we need that price point back from the full crestron line.
once november 1st comes I'm not sure what I'm going to do.
thats the cut off for getting prodigy direct from crestron.

and i don't think ill get prodigy after that.
Post 7 made on Tuesday October 11, 2011 at 22:10
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I'm getting back to RTI for a solution that's about $1k. No programming headaches and more selection in handhelds. To me this is a no brainer.
Post 8 made on Tuesday October 11, 2011 at 22:33
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On October 11, 2011 at 22:10, mrtristan said...
I'm getting back to RTI for a solution that's about $1k. No programming headaches and more selection in handhelds. To me this is a no brainer.

RTI is far more flexible in all facets, agree, no brainer! I'm doing my last Prodigy/Crestron System in 2 weeks. Adios True Blue!
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Post 9 made on Tuesday October 11, 2011 at 22:41
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 The funny thing is, a lot of RTI and some URC solutions are about the same price as crestron. It's really the cost of a programmer or learning to program that makes it a tough sale. Unless you can truly sell the same system 30 times and amortize the programming cost, its hard to start out at Crestron's entry level stuff and stay profitable.
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Post 10 made on Tuesday October 11, 2011 at 22:51
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To be honest I think they brought Prodigy out just to sign up more dealers. Those dealers in turn sold some Prodigy but others were more successful and sold the Adagio and full blown stuff. Maybe they cannibalized sales from other dealers in the area.

They were loosing ground. the market was down and only Control 4 (maybe URC) showed growth. They had to do something.
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Post 11 made on Tuesday October 11, 2011 at 22:59
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No, but not because of the move with distribution though. The reason being RTI now has an equally or more capable equivalent that programs more efficiently.
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Post 12 made on Tuesday October 11, 2011 at 23:22
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So is the XP3 shipping for RTI? If so have any of you had issues with it reliability wise?

with its retail price being similar to Bitwise with the availability of using handhelds this is now the new prodigy replacement. The system is not inexpensive by any means but it fits the middle ground with mobile control.
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Post 13 made on Wednesday October 12, 2011 at 01:51
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 For 2-way control with RTI,at mi imum you need a T2C and XP3, which has an msrp of $1398. A prodigy system with PLX3 at $1200 is competitive if you ask me. I just want to be able to keep buying that direct.

As much as Imprefer RTai programming, I think URC has the best budget solutions. C4 guys also have the full spectrum covered interns of meeting budgets.
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Post 14 made on Wednesday October 12, 2011 at 02:48
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The big difference is that the processors are significantly less. In my experience the system requirements rarely involve a two way handheld. Ipad, iphone, sure. At that point there is plenty of room in the budget for a decent 433 remote if a handheld is needed. We were using prodigy for multiroom so the handheld isn't always necessary. With the AD4 and 8 RTI is a pretty natural choice.
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Post 15 made on Wednesday October 12, 2011 at 08:50
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On October 12, 2011 at 01:51, sofa_king_CI said...
 For 2-way control with RTI,at mi imum you need a T2C and XP3, which has an msrp of $1398. A prodigy system with PLX3 at $1200 is competitive if you ask me. I just want to be able to keep buying that direct.

As much as Imprefer RTai programming, I think URC has the best budget solutions. C4 guys also have the full spectrum covered interns of meeting budgets.

Actually the T2Cs+ and XP3 would run $1198 for entry level two-way.

I love RTI and feel like they are continually improving at their typical snails pace. I don't think they have the resources to move as quickly as the other players but their forum has help RTI monitor what dealers are looking for. Drivers are continuously improving programming and the UI. They still do not have a good debugging resource or very good troubleshooting white papers. So because of that, you'll need to invest a lot of time seeing what works and what doesn't. With that being said, things are looking better and their products are have less QC issues that plagued them in the past.
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