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Opinions for Crestron friendly Alarms Honeywell Vista128 vs GE-NX-8E
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Post 1 made on Tuesday February 22, 2011 at 19:03
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I am trying to bring everything in together under one roof, I'm a new Crestron residential dealer and was in the process of bringing Sequel on board. I am trying to decide which is best for my customers needs and making this work financially for me. I would like less headaches and to keep the costs of equipment down

What are your thoughts between the two (factoring the necessary options required to make them work with crestron for example) It doesn't have to be limited to the two, but it seems they have been used more than a few times. Reliability, speed in communicating and user options/accessories like FOBS, clickers.
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Post 2 made on Tuesday February 22, 2011 at 22:27
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With our company being a Honeywell dealer and that being the main security panel that we use with our integration I will be the first to tell as far as ease of programming and integration with Crestron the GE panels are much friendlier and price competitive (nx8e vs 128bpe). Also the Sequel panel was a waste of money and you would be much better off with GE, Elk, Honeywell or DSC. The GE and Elk panels seem to be the fastest two when it comes to communicating with Crestron, the Honeywell panels can be pretty fast also but it takes much more work with making adjustments in the security panel settings to get to that stage meaning more time if you are not very familiar with their brand. The new rev 4 panels are also faster and more friendly with Crestron, but still in my opinion based on price and ease of integration with Crestron GE is the best all around for the job.
Post 3 made on Wednesday February 23, 2011 at 09:18
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We also use the GE systems as our go to system. The only downfall that we have run into is that it is highly recommended to run the security system on their own processor (QM-RMC). This has been suggested by three different people I have personally talked to as well as on the yahoo groups forum. We did find a loop-hole and that is you can't use the newest processors (DIN-AP2, PAC2, PAC2M, MC3?) to control the system as the processor freezes and must be reset. The QM-RMC was the suggested one to my by the 3 people I spoke with and is also the cheapest. The module is already built for it and works perfect, even with adding partitions and extra zones to the original module.

Providing all the settings are set correctly on the GE system you will have no problems.
Just a note that this is not a System builder friendly module (although there is one on Yahoo groups) so having some knowledge of Simpl might be required if you need to change the module in any way.
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OP | Post 4 made on Wednesday February 23, 2011 at 13:48
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Thanks for the input guys, so if leaning towards the GE system what are the necessary items required? From what I can see the board kit and a NX-584 for rs232 control, anything else needed to be speced as a standard package?
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Post 5 made on Wednesday February 23, 2011 at 14:25
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If you get the NX-8E the 584 board is already installed. If you get the NX-8 (I don't think they sell it anymore) you will require the 584 board. You will also have to spec a crestron processor (QM-RMC is the cheapest and was suggested to my from Crestron). I do know some ppl on here have incorporated the whole project onto the same processor with no problems but I would be hessitent as I have seen some wired things happen with the security system and a processor.

Don't forget your programming time. The good thing is that the Crestron Module is already built for you so you only have to add partitions or zones to the project along with an intersystem communication (RSD).
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Post 6 made on Monday February 28, 2011 at 09:42
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We use the Nx-8E with their NX-587E Virtual keypad when we integrate security with Crestron. Very simple to integrate using SB. Basically mimics one of the GE keypads. It seems like it is a lot less taxing on the system then using the serial port on the alarm panel, so it works fine with the slower adagio processors as well.
Basically a device that has a serial port in one end and a rj11 port in the other end, that gets wired to the keypad buss on the alarm panel.

Heard to many horror stories about using Crestron with the Ademco panels, so never even tried it. Otherwise good panels though

Last edited by MrDigitronic on February 28, 2011 10:07.
Post 7 made on Monday February 28, 2011 at 10:07
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Run away from the 128. Just say no to Honeywell!!!
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OP | Post 8 made on Monday February 28, 2011 at 15:38
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Thanks for the feedback, I ordered the NX-8E and should have it within a day or so, my primary focus is primarily going to be Adagio, I did take the advice and ordered a QM-RMC for the alarm. Though the virtual kp sounds great!
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Post 9 made on Tuesday March 1, 2011 at 13:25
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How about use with Prodigy? Do the modules work?
Post 10 made on Tuesday March 1, 2011 at 18:57
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On February 28, 2011 at 15:38, UTSdigitalslop said...
Thanks for the feedback, I ordered the NX-8E and should have it within a day or so, my primary focus is primarily going to be Adagio, I did take the advice and ordered a QM-RMC for the alarm. Though the virtual kp sounds great!

Works exactly like a NX-148E keypad, nothing more, nothing less. We usually use a couple of 148E keypads in the systems in less prominent areas like garage entry etc, so easy transision for the customer. Really fast as well, pretty much like the regular alarm keypad. We trigger events from the different wave file signals/alarm events in the module, because it doesn't give you direct control/feedback over zones. Easier to setup and faster responsenthen the serial module, but a more basic way of doing it.


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