I am pulling my Crestron opening order. Does anyone have any suggestions. I was thinking of getting the PMC3XP since I can run both Composer and SIMPL on it and Crestron gear as well as Prodigy of course. I also want to do some lighting and climate. What do you guys think about the Adagio stuff? To me it seems a little redundant to Prodigy. I was thinking about a Sonnex SWAMP.

I would suggest the MC3 if your a main line dealer, you can use the Cameo line light switches which look much nicer than the prodigy switches as well as the nicer touch panels like the TPS6X; I have use the Adagio on a couple of jobs I have never experienced any problems with it mostly the AADS & AAE. I know of other dealers that have used and really like the Adagio AES and the AMS.

I have done several AES jobs. Work great. One job is actually a little over what they recommend for an Adagio system and it works flawlessly. Now, I wouldn't recommend doing that but in my case I had no choice. Actually have the AADS-XM installed in my house.
For your opening order, if you are going to be doing more Adagio go with that for your order. If not go with the newer MC3 for processor and the Sonnex stuff for audio. Maybe even check out the smaller DM switchers. Actually, they haven't released them yet.

Huh? Can you tell me which one is which, just by looking?

I would go with the mc3 and the sonnex for sure. I think that the sonnex will eventually replace the adagio line and prodigy covers most of what the adagio used to handle. The mc3 will be the new processor platform for Creston, there are talks of the pro3 and cp3e for next year. I am about to die to get my hands on both of those pieces, I sure hope that we have those coming in soon. If not, can I help you set yours up? :)

There is a huge difference other than the obvious color choices you can do any of the button configurations shown below, you can also have the buttons custom engraved....and as I stated above the Cameo switch white LEDs are much more pronounced and look much nicer than the Prodigy green LEDs. The Prodigy green LEDs look sort of faint in some cases you can't even see them depending on the angle they're viewed from.

Awe, I see. THey do have some EX keypads for Prodigy coming out that would allow more button options, but those aren't dimmers, just keypads to go with dimmers. And deinitely not as many colors.

Ultimately I think it depends on how much money you have to spend for your personal demo system.

Get what you plan to sell then beat the heck out of it so it won't beat the heck out of you when you do your first installs.

If this is for Demo/Learning to use stuff Id suggest:

1 PMC3-XP
1 SWAMP
1 CEN-TRACK with either the AM/FM/XM card or Audionet card
1 TPS-6L
1 PTL-4L
1 PTX-3
1 (or more) dimmer(s) of your choice
1 CHV-TSTAT


That will give you lighting and HVAC, distributed audio(which in principal works the same as video) 2 different sized touch pannels to learn good GUI design on and lastly some experience with cross-points.



I learned on a Pro2 Pad8 C2N-TXM and STX-1700CXP

Don't you have to get teh SWAMP-24x8? which isn't a small purchase, but I haven't really looked into Sonnex and may not understand it right.

though so too...

Correct. That is the only Sonnex switcher.