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Topic: | RF controlled Fire Place This thread has 10 replies. Displaying all posts. |
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Post 1 made on Friday August 24, 2007 at 23:35 |
Sebastian3012 Lurking Member |
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I've got an install finishing up.(Home Theatre, zone audio, gaming room, etc) In the maste BR only the fire place is RF, in fact it is the only RF controlled component in the entire house. What is the easiest and (and cheapest) way to acomplish this? (the client is tightening the purse strings and I don't want any wasted days on site or extrenious expense)
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on August 24, 2007 23:48.
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Post 2 made on Saturday August 25, 2007 at 00:28 |
oex Super Member |
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with the info provided - it seems it already works via supplied RF remote.
Give some info
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OP | Post 3 made on Monday August 27, 2007 at 15:33 |
Sebastian3012 Lurking Member |
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All local systems are controlled with mx3000s, do I have to install the MRF250 or MRF 300 to control the rf fireplace?(The RF receiver is hidden in the marble work surrounding the fireplace)
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Post 4 made on Monday August 27, 2007 at 16:05 |
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The fireplace must be IR controlled if you want to control it with the MX-3000. If it's only RF controlled, only the original remote can control it.
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Post 5 made on Monday August 27, 2007 at 18:14 |
J.Todd Long Time Member |
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If you want to make a science project of this there are options. You can build a ir controlled relay board that then get a extra rf remote(for the fireplace) and take it apart and wire the relay to the "button". When the relay board sees the ir command it will make a contact like "pushing the button" and the remote sends the rf code to the fireplace and wow the fireplace is on. You can do this for off also. Here is a link for you if you feel up to the challange. [Link: store.qkits.com]I have done this for alot of systems for differant thing. Hope this helps. J.Todd
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Post 6 made on Tuesday August 28, 2007 at 00:28 |
Benford AV Active Member |
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I hope the batteries in the fireplace remote last forever, or you'll be getting a call on the first freeze of every winter season and you'll have to dig your science project out of the rack to swap the batteries and fix everything else you break while moving around the hidden remote.
But yeah, I think this might be your only option. Good luck!!
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Post 7 made on Tuesday August 28, 2007 at 02:11 |
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Grab a DC adapter from Radio Shack and wire it up to the contacts.
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Post 8 made on Tuesday August 28, 2007 at 04:12 |
Ernie Bornn-Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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On August 27, 2007 at 18:14, J.Todd said...
If you want to make a science project of this there are options. I call these art projects because the time and cost are likely to exceed the real value, just like most current art, and because the result might not be what you wanted. You can build a ir controlled relay board that then get a extra rf remote(for the fireplace) and take it apart and wire the relay to the "button". The first thing you need to do is find the contacts in the fireplace remote receiver that are connected together to turn it on, and run wires from those contacts to your system. If you can't do that, you can't change from RF. As for the rest of this, if the RF simply closes a relay to turn on the fireplace, then opens it to turn it off, a Xantech CC12 IR-controlled relay will do exactly that. Or two CC12 could be used to emulate button pushes on the original remote, and yes, you should work out a constant power supply instead of batteries for that remote.
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Post 9 made on Tuesday August 28, 2007 at 08:12 |
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On August 28, 2007 at 00:28, Benford AV said...
I hope the batteries in the fireplace remote last forever, or you'll be getting a call on the first freeze of every winter season and you'll have to dig your science project out of the rack to swap the batteries and fix everything else you break while moving around the hidden remote.
But yeah, I think this might be your only option. Good luck!! I did hook a power supply to the remote so I would not get that call. Thanks for the idea, but I have already done that. Thanks J.Todd
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Post 10 made on Tuesday August 28, 2007 at 08:19 |
J.Todd Long Time Member |
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On August 28, 2007 at 04:12, Ernie Bornn-Gilman said...
I call these art projects because the time and cost are likely to exceed the real value, just like most current art, and because the result might not be what you wanted.
The first thing you need to do is find the contacts in the fireplace remote receiver that are connected together to turn it on, and run wires from those contacts to your system. If you can't do that, you can't change from RF.
As for the rest of this, if the RF simply closes a relay to turn on the fireplace, then opens it to turn it off, a Xantech CC12 IR-controlled relay will do exactly that.
Or two CC12 could be used to emulate button pushes on the original remote, and yes, you should work out a constant power supply instead of batteries for that remote. I have been Installing for the past 23 years and if there is nothing that I have learned more important then, " your customers will pay for what they want if they really want it". If I do a science project like this I always make it worth my time. I have had alot of customers ask for very strange things. If I can do what they are asking and the are willing to pay for it, what is the problem? They get what they want and I get what I want. Thanks J.Todd
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Post 11 made on Tuesday August 28, 2007 at 23:53 |
Benford AV Active Member |
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J. Todd, you are a smart man.
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