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Can I trigger MSC400 macros with IR?
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Post 16 made on Saturday August 18, 2007 at 14:32
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RTI allows IR macro triggers, you can get the triggers right out of the TheaterTouch program. You use the device drop down and select create trigger codes, this will save every Macro you have created on the RP-1/6 Control unit as a trigger code in either Hex or a T2+ file, from there you copy the trigger code into the remote as a button, I have used it many times with the Xantech 590-00. I use the Xantech Inputs to send the Trigger codes to the RP units. One instance is we have a vantage system and at the Main entrances there are buttons labeled "House Off" on the Lighting KP's, we added a contact closure module to the Vantage system in the theater, when the House Off button is pressed the contact closure feeds the Xantech with a colsure which sends a Theater system off macro trigger to shiut the theater down if its left on, we have also done several other rooms in the house the same way, we have also used the macro triggers for the LG BH100 in the same way, as when the LG is rack mounted in a custom shelf there is no access to the buttons, we fed a couple of push buttons mounted in the rack face to the xantech to trigger power and eject triggers

we havent had any Faults from system triggers, I have had more faults from poor RF though....Not gping to mention any brand names but most will know who Im talking about...no its not RTI
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OP | Post 17 made on Saturday August 18, 2007 at 19:23
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On August 17, 2007 at 15:39, J.Todd said...

The easy was to do what you are trying to do is to use
a PUM01 ( x10 contact ) and a IR X10 Command Console (
ir to x10).

This is a very easy way to do what you want.

The B&K will have the codes you need.

Could you please explain this a little more? I dont think I understand how this will solve what I want to do?
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Post 18 made on Sunday August 19, 2007 at 12:04
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On August 18, 2007 at 19:23, Fins said...
Could you please explain this a little more? I dont think
I understand how this will solve what I want to do?



What these parts let you do, is to send a ir code (x10 ir code) that the x10 ir commander sees then sends a x10 powerline code to the x10 drycontact (power supply in line) and the drycontact is hooked to the msc-400 input (Voltage senser input) you could use a standard appliance module with a power supply plugged into it, that would trigger a smart macro in the msc-400.

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Post 19 made on Sunday August 19, 2007 at 14:32
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And you could do the same thing with something that Xantech makes too. Can't remember the model # right now.

He has 5 TV's, right Fins? There are only 6 voltage sensing ports on the MSC400. If you are currently using any for other things, you are going to run out pretty fast.
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Post 20 made on Sunday August 19, 2007 at 17:50
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You are right about the TVs but he said he wanted a ir to trigger a macro for the all off command and that would be one voltage trigger for that.

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Post 21 made on Sunday August 19, 2007 at 18:05
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The other way I have made a ir command a smart macro in a msc-400 is not for the novice.
I used a Relay8 X10 Eight Circuit Relay Module with 8 relays that respond to x10 codes and I have a modified mx-900 that I soldered the relays to. Still used a x10 ir commander to recieve the ir codes and send the x10 codes to the Relay8 X10 Eight Circuit Relay Module that "pushes" the mx-900 that is programmed with the macros that I needed.
I did this so I could have more that the 6 voltage/video into the msc-400.

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OP | Post 22 made on Sunday August 19, 2007 at 23:22
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On August 19, 2007 at 14:32, FP Crazy said...
And you could do the same thing with something that Xantech
makes too. Can't remember the model # right now.

He has 5 TV's, right Fins? There are only 6 voltage sensing
ports on the MSC400. If you are currently using any for
other things, you are going to run out pretty fast

Yes, 5 TVs. So far none of the sensor inputs are being used. THe more I thought about this, and really what I want to do, I think I may be able to do it with video sensors after all. One video sensor on each of the composite outs of the B&K for each zone with a TV. All I was originally trying to do was make the off button on the keypad turn off the TV for that room, and the all off turn off everything including tvs.

Now what I need to make sure of is if a zone on the CT600 is turned on, even if there is no actual video source on that input, if a video sensor on that zones output will pick up that the zone is on.

I was over thinking the problem in the beginning.
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OP | Post 23 made on Sunday August 19, 2007 at 23:25
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On August 19, 2007 at 18:05, J.Todd said...
I did this so I could have more that the 6 voltage/video
into the msc-400.

You know you can add a slave 400 and get more sensors, right? lol
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Post 24 made on Monday August 20, 2007 at 06:50
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On August 19, 2007 at 18:05, J.Todd said...
The other way I have made a ir command a smart macro in
a msc-400 is not for the novice.
I used a Relay8 X10 Eight Circuit Relay Module with
8 relays that respond to x10 codes and I have a modified
mx-900 that I soldered the relays to. Still used a x10
ir commander to recieve the ir codes and send the x10
codes to the Relay8 X10 Eight Circuit Relay Module that
"pushes" the mx-900 that is programmed with the macros
that I needed.|

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Post 25 made on Monday August 20, 2007 at 06:54
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On August 19, 2007 at 23:22, Fins said...
Yes, 5 TVs. So far none of the sensor inputs are being
used. THe more I thought about this, and really what I
want to do, I think I may be able to do it with video
sensors after all. One video sensor on each of the composite
outs of the B&K for each zone with a TV. All I was originally
trying to do was make the off button on the keypad turn
off the TV for that room, and the all off turn off everything
including tvs.

Now what I need to make sure of is if a zone on the CT600
is turned on, even if there is no actual video source
on that input, if a video sensor on that zones output
will pick up that the zone is on.

I was over thinking the problem in the beginning.

If that is the case, could you not just use the switched 12v control output of each zone? The same one that turns on the zone keypad LED? What would be the difference? Turn kp off, 12v control goes off (along with KP LED), macro triggers to turn TV off.
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OP | Post 26 made on Monday August 20, 2007 at 15:25
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On August 20, 2007 at 06:54, FP Crazy said...
If that is the case, could you not just use the switched
12v control output of each zone? The same one that turns
on the zone keypad LED? What would be the difference?
Turn kp off, 12v control goes off (along with KP LED),
macro triggers to turn TV off.

When I first saw your reply, I thought that would work. But after thinking further, the 12v coming out of the B&K is always on. It never goes off.

I think that B&K and URC should work on making the CT600 and the MSC400 communicate with each other so the Keypads could do more than just vol up and down and change sources. Maybe put an RF transmitter on the B&K and update the keypad software to something that you can import triggers into instead of using the old MX850 programming.

Last edited by Fins on August 20, 2007 19:58.
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