True.
IF you are recording your own voice, etc., in your own voice recorder, you can adjust the bitrate to make the file smaller.
But that would involve too much work.:)
It's easier to just use that site, for quick and simple wav files for remote.
But that site doesn't specify what bitrate those wav files are made at?

But even so:
Image files , you would assume, would contain more info, and be larger.
Or it just maybe how the remote deals with them vs wav files.
It would be nice if it released the wav file memory space after playing a wav file, to help conserve ram.
But that may not be possible, or too much for URC to implement in firmware.
Until then, we need to be awhere of the LIMITED use of wav files.
For everything else , the remote seams to handle setups with tons of devices, pages, and jpgs(on my remote at least), eficiently.

does anyone know how to raise the volume on the wave files i cannot hear mine?
also how do you get the countdown graphic pages, for certain buttons to add that extra WOW factor to work?

Thats why wanted to null the beep. Do that then Hold down the Watch and enter button the go to sounds and turn it up.


Results.

I way overloaded the File with sounds. It not only failed but i had to install activesync 4.5 to get it to even Recognize the Remotes again... What a pain. Dont ever try to overload your RAM. I am currently running @ Ram 91% MEM 13%. and i dont plan on changing it.

Also don't Put a sound on the Volume Buttons. It kills the repeat.


Dave

#1 to raise volume:
You can up the volume on the remote using it's setup(mx-950, Watch+Enter, sound, etc..., save).
#2 countdown WOW graphics on a mx-950:

First off I make a "null" device called "Please Wait"
Then I make numerious pages on that device(1 page per numbered graphic).

I go into photoshop, and make 64x64 bit graphics jpeg grayscale(why waste color info for a non color remote, saves jpeg file sizes) images with circles , and numbers inside( 20 graphics, numbered 1-20 ea).
These graphics have a couple of white circles, white cross bars, and white numbers centered, on a gray background(simple).
I have made 20 images with 1-20 numbers of counter graphics.
I do this for how many pages and number of countdown screens I think I may need( to me, 20 is enough).

I then insert these graphics on pages 1-20.
This is where you need to make sure they align right, else countdown may jitter from one countdown graphic page to the next.

The last page on the null "please wait" device has the countdown macros.
If I want a countdown macro from 10-1:
I have a macro that is labeled "10-1":
It jumps to page 10(with the number "10" graphic), delay 1 sec, jumps to page 9 graphic, delays 1 sec, etc.., down to page 1 graphic.

This may sound like it may take up a lot of memory on the remote.
but actually it takes very little, plus gives you a null device to use for delays, etc.

Now:
I also have a DVD selection device.

My Sony DVD player works best when I do "stop" wait 6 secs, press display, enter, wait.02 delay, press x, 02 delay, y, .02delay, y, .02,(slot number of CD/DVD) ,, wait 10 secs, Display
16 secs is a long time for someone to wait without anything showing a macro is doing anything, but if IR, they need to keep remote pointed(if RF, they still need to wait an extra 17 secs before CD/DVD is actually loaded, before they can select a track, etc., for a CD)..
So I show a countdown screen instead, between macro commands!

So here is what my "before CD/DVD macro calls:
STOP DVD player.
Jump: "Please wait", "16-11" macro( which is a a 6 sec delay which shows a countdown screens of 16-11 with 1 sec delays, for 6 secs).
Display DVD player
Enter DVD player

My "after CD/DVD " macro calls this:
counterdown macro of 10-1(which shows countdown screens from 10-1 with 1 sec delays, for 10 secs).
Display DVD player..
jump to graphic that says "enjoy your Movie/Music".
For CDs, I have one more graphic that says" Please make sure CD is loaded before selecting an individual Track/song"

I don't list tracks/songs for CDs, since you would be looking at 400 CD/DVd changer of 30 tracks times?!!!
TOO many pages, etc...
DVDs are simple, but to do CD individual song selection, forget it.

So I have this:
On my "listen" screen I have a "listen to CD" button.
This turns TV off, sets inputs, etc., and then jumps to page 1 on a MAIN menu null device for CDS(listing genres).
This MAIN CD menu device also contains the "before" and "after" CD macros(best place to put those, I figure).
These genre buttons jump to genre null CD devices where each genre device is organized with CD coverart pages.
Each coverart page has a coverart graphic, and a "selectCD" button macro.
These macros works like this:
Call "before CD" macro
enter slot number of CD(i.e. x,y,z on CD player).
Call "after CD" macro.
Jump back to selected CD coverart page.

If you want to select an individual track/song, you have to wait until CD loads(which can take up to 17 secs after CD is selected on a Sony DVD mega changer), else it may error.
Since my CD genre null devices have the keypad punched through , and "enter" button is an aliased IR command from the CD player, you can then select a track by pressing: x,y,z,Enter
The "Exit" button on CD genre null device is a macro that jumps to CD player device(thus why I didn't also punch through the directional pad from CD device onto null CD genre device), page 1(for full device control).
While CD is being loaded, you can grab CD printout(music collector printout) for song.. to optionally select an individual song, once CD loads.
Or, do nothing after remote says "Enjoy your music"
Since at that point CD is selected and is being loaded and will start playing from first song.

The idea is that the Sony mega DVD/CD changers(at least on the DVD-CX995V) take long delays between certain commands(else you may get errors), after stopping, and selecting a cd, and then before pressing the final "display" to exit.
The countdown graphics show a visual countdown to the user to indicate that the macro is doing something and hasn't completed(plus I have a wav file that says"DVD/CD is being selected"), during these delays.
Mine is to keep my wife to hold remote for it to complete the macros with the delays to make sure DC/DVD is selected, etc...(after final "display is entered on DVD player, you can put down the remote, to know this the "after CD/DVD" macros end with an "enjoy your Movie/Music", after final "display" command)
It also gives a WOW factor.


BTW:
This is just a way to make a mx-950 do some WOWs
If you have a mx-3000 you may have better ways to do BETTER WOW countdown screens (animated GIFs, etc). But this is how I do it for the mx-950

My setup is VERY compact(so far, I am still working on making it even more so), using nesting macros, etc...
I also think I have it nicely organized for CD/DVD mega changers, to easily allow for adding CD/DVDs, on a mx-950.
Each time I add a CD/DVD I use music collector(or movie collector for DVDs) to get the coverart.
Save it, and then open the coverart graphic in photoshop, reduce it to 64x64 bit grayscale( limited graphic, barely do you see a good representation, but it's something, a poor 64x64 bit grayscale jpeg barely recognizable graphic), retype title over it in photoshop with 6-8 point text, so that is readable on mx-950,
Add a page to the CD/DVD genre device, insert the coverart graphic,
Label a button under the coverart graphic to say "SelectCD(or DVD),
and make a macro for it like this:
call the "before CD/DVD" macro,
insert the slot number(x, delay .02, y, delay .02, z), from null CD/DVD genre device(since those numbers are punched through from CD/DVD device),
call the "after CD/DVD" macro.
and jump back to that CD/DVD coverart page.

This sounds like a lot, but once you have the system, it takes but 5 minutes to add a new CD or DVD, and have a nice selction graphic, etc., on remote, along with a printout(using movie collector or music collector) for referance.

When someone on my system gos into "listen" activities, all "visuals are gone(TV is turned off), so it's important for it to be error free.
I hate the delays that I have.
But I found out that the Sony DVD NEEDS those long delays to do it right.

My graphics and macros take very little memory(12% so far, with plenty more space for coverart, etc.).
wav files take up more, go figure...

Thanks.
Now we know:
Be careful with wav files.

True.
But you can do it for the mute button, as I have(it says: "muting").

BTW: I have a bunch of wav files on my remote, but conservately placed.
I do them for MAJOR operations.
Main Power buttons(punch through from Watch power macros, which plays wav, turns everything on, off, etc.), Watch/Listen button activity buttons("Watch cable TV", etc.), selection confirmations("CD/DVD is being selected", "music channel selected", "FM/XM station selected", etc.), REC( "Recording", I wanted to do a confirmation for the REC, it's also a multi step macro ) and mute(punch through from AVR macro, which plays wav: "muting", since this is a toggle and "muting" covers both since you can't have mute on/off, and exucutes mute on AVR), etc.
NOT everywhere.
Plus I have a ton of neat graphics, null devices, nested macros, etc.
But yet my remote only shows 60-70%RAM 9-12% MEM, with plenty of room for tons more CD/DVD selections and devices, with all of the main wav files/devices, macros,etc., there.
I made sure I didn't go overboard, but yet have a good amount of WOW factors.

In answer to the question of "why do WAV files take up so much RAM," the answer is simple: WAV files are completely uncompressed. They are the audio eqivalent of a 32-bit BMP file. However, in a remote, it's important that the audio files BE uncompressed, because any time spent decompressing the audio is time the processor MIGHT need to process IR or RF. The nature of compressed audio is such that there's no way to predict beforehand exactly how many processor cycles will be required to decode a given segment of the music. But with uncompressed audio, the processor time needed for playback is always known.

Ahh, I see.
If the remote's processor had to compress/uncompress sound files, etc., it would take too many resources and the IR/RF commands would have to wait.
This way you just have the remote load the wav file, and since it's uncomrpesed size doesn't have to be calculated, it KNOWS how much ram to load it into without further processing, so you can run IR/RF commands while it plays, which is what I do in my macros.
I also didn't realize that wav files are uncompressed sound files.
At least the remote's software can handle jpeg compresion to save space, which I tank you for, since it allows quite a bit of graphics(like for CD/DVD mega changers).
wav files add that EXTRA WOW factor, but should be used conservately as I do.
Too bad the mx-950 isn't color.
Is the mx-810 a COLOR replacement for the mx-950, or is it more of a consumer remote?
I would like to see a COLOR version of the mx-950(with all of t's features, and more), with more than 16mb ram.

The MX-810 is a Pro remote, but is not a successor to the 950. I cannot comment on our product roadmap beyond the products that we have already announced.

The way the MX-3000 handles WAV files, you can actually send IR or RF during the playback of a WAV. The same would be a tremendous challenge if the audio were compressed.

Thanks,
Dale

OK.
So I guess I should wait for the mx-960 instead?:)
The mx-950 IS A GREAT REMOTE.
I like it's formfactor over the mx-3000, but wish it had color.
It would be nice to see an mx-950 with a color screen, and 32-48mb ram.
With the mx-3000, all that needs is more ram, and then it's even better.
So I hope you guys are at least considering adding more ram to the remotes.

Yes, I can kind of see the complexity of trying to program the remote's firmware to handle compression for sound files, and ALSO execute IR/RF.
So, it looks like you guys throughly thought that out too.
Just give me more ram and color on a mx-950, and I am happy.
But both remotes need more ram:)
It would also be nice to see you work with triple-b to integrate a CD/DVD type profiler into the mx-editors for mega changers.
Add wifi to a mx-3000, and you would beat all other remotes, hands down.