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WARNING!!! New CCP Update requires dealer login!
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Post 16 made on Thursday July 15, 2021 at 21:09
mhe4
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I had tried blocking ccp.exe, ccpliveupdate.exe, and urcliveupdate.exe, but the prompt still showed up on startup.

Adding rules for urcframe.exe and urcliveupdate8.dll did the trick, however. I wonder if just those two are enough...or even just the DLL file.

Thanks for the working set of blocking rules.
-Mark
Post 17 made on Friday July 16, 2021 at 12:47
BizarroTerl
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It is possible that all is needed to block is the dll. I blocked the 1st 3 and was still connecting to their server. Once I blocked the dll it quit connecting.

My next concern is installing onto a new system. Eventually I'll have to do that. The latest update I did was on 6/27 and that update modified CCP.info, URCFrame.exe, UDML8.dll, update_aid.dat, and MXSYS.DAT. It looks like I could do an install, then copy my current Program Files folder over it, and then have the database as of 06/27.
Post 18 made on Friday July 16, 2021 at 23:05
Johnny Canuck
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This really sucks as I had a legit URC Control Room account from days as a tech blogger and have a bunch of URC remotes kicking around. However, I think I found another workaround.

I entered a username and login in the dealer login prompt (which of course failed), but from there I was able to close the dialog box without the program closing out and then could use the latest version.

Update, that trick only worked once.
Post 19 made on Friday July 16, 2021 at 23:20
Johnny Canuck
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On July 15, 2021 at 11:12, DJ Garcia said...
I use Kaspersky Internet Security. It has an Application Management section that lets you control applications execution and network access. I set it to not allow network access for CCP.

Hi,

I use KIS as well and block network access but that didn't solve the problem. Is there something else you did as well?

Thanks
Post 20 made on Saturday July 17, 2021 at 06:06
Ernie
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Try using Fiddler (web debug tool) and see what connections are being made:

[Link: telerik.com]

When i used it, the only thing I saw accessing the internet was URCFrame.exe:

3154966
I put a block for just it using Windows Defender and it seems to work.
OP | Post 21 made on Saturday July 17, 2021 at 10:05
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On July 16, 2021 at 23:20, Johnny Canuck said...
Hi,

I use KIS as well and block network access but that didn't solve the problem. Is there something else you did as well?

Thanks

In the App Control / App Management section, under Trusted I selected Deny for network in two Universal Remote headings, one that had CCP under it and another for GZIP. But also and most important under Low Restricted I denied network to a CCP Editor entry.
MX-990
Post 22 made on Sunday July 18, 2021 at 08:09
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The July 13th update was the culprit. We stopped being dealers a couple of years ago, so no ID anymore. We updated on July 12th and it is all good. Delete the contents of the URL.ini (Make it an empty file) and it will not bug you to update. :)

Last edited by shokwaverider on July 18, 2021 13:18.
Post 23 made on Sunday July 18, 2021 at 12:00
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On July 18, 2021 at 08:09, shokwaverider said...
The July 13th update was the culprit. We stopped being dealers a couple of years ago, so not ID anymore. We updated on July 12th and it is all good. Delete the contents of the URL.ini (Make it an empty file) and it will not bug you to update. :)

Thanks,
that works and it is a lot less trouble to do.

I noticed there is a new MX-1400 in the login version, at least it was not in my CCP program, looks like it has a microphone for voice control.
Post 24 made on Sunday July 18, 2021 at 13:21
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You can also replace files in the July 13th update with those from the July 12th update (Not the directories) and you will get the updated components. But Delete the url.ini file.
Post 25 made on Sunday July 18, 2021 at 13:33
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My problem is that I just replaced the PC that I was running CCP on and the last downloaded version I have is from 2018. Updating it includes the July 13th version and I can't think of a way around that.

I've blocked all the recommended programs at the firewall but still getting the login box and shutting down immediately after exiting.
Post 26 made on Sunday July 18, 2021 at 16:15
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Nothing's going to remove the login short of URC sending a new upgrade to disable it. You already went too far in upgrading, others are still set to the older software and are just trying to prevent it from upgraded to dreaded upgrade on its own. Sorry.
Post 27 made on Sunday July 18, 2021 at 16:28
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On July 18, 2021 at 13:21, shokwaverider said...
You can also replace files in the July 13th update with those from the July 12th update (Not the directories) and you will get the updated components. But Delete the url.ini file.

Do you have specifics on what files you used from the old version to overwrite in the new (password protected) version?
-Mark
Post 28 made on Sunday July 18, 2021 at 18:16
Johnny Canuck
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On July 18, 2021 at 16:15, edmund said...
Nothing's going to remove the login short of URC sending a new upgrade to disable it. You already went too far in upgrading, others are still set to the older software and are just trying to prevent it from upgraded to dreaded upgrade on its own. Sorry.

Thanks ... I'd be happier if I had a version later than 2018 to work from though.
Post 29 made on Monday July 19, 2021 at 10:18
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On July 18, 2021 at 13:33, Johnny Canuck said...
My problem is that I just replaced the PC that I was running CCP on and the last downloaded version I have is from 2018. Updating it includes the July 13th version and I can't think of a way around that.

I've blocked all the recommended programs at the firewall but still getting the login box and shutting down immediately after exiting.

Can you do a Windows System Restore to an early point that was before the July 13 update ?
Randy
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Post 30 made on Monday July 19, 2021 at 12:05
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new poster but long time reader...

I have 5 mx780s that I've been happy with for years. I bought these from an authorized dealer that happily provided the CCP software, but now have closed up shop.

I'm not happy now. I've been trapped with this malicious update to CCP that now requires a password to operate. The 'malicious' part is due to URC deciding to unilaterally change their stated policy of allowing dealers to decide to share the software or not, and inserting this change silently into an update that effectively disabled working software on my computer. They've decided to retroactively lock out authorized users that have the software in this manner. I would never have decided to buy these remotes if their current policy existed at that time.

I've been in touch with URC tech support. They tell me to go back to my dealer for support. Unfortunately, they seem to have missed 2 things while planning their new policy: dealers that are out of business and can no longer provide software, and the fact that they cannot unilaterally change the terms of past purchases.

Has anyone found a better path forward? I'd like to restore CCP usage instead of taking them to small claims court to force them to buy back the equipment.
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