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MX810 Wizard & Sony BDP-S5200 DVD
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Post 1 made on Friday October 17, 2014 at 12:50
MikeD2
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Wizard software does not have the new Sony DVD players listed S1200/3200/5200 but does have last years models (S1100/3100/5100). The remotes have physically different layouts but mostly the same keys.

Anyone know if the underlaying codes are the same ? I know the easy way is to just load it up & try, but I have a new TV & this player coming in 2 weeks and I wanted to get as much programmed as possible before they arrive, then fine tune.
Post 2 made on Friday October 17, 2014 at 15:06
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The codes are the same, that remote is a turd.
OP | Post 3 made on Friday October 17, 2014 at 21:35
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On October 17, 2014 at 15:06, Lowhz said...
The codes are the same, that remote is a turd.

Thanks (for the codes) - which remote is a turd - LOL ?

I know the 810 never garnered much of a following, but it's a solid piece of equipment - Wizard can be a bit of a pain at times tho.

The Sony remote looks like a real POS in the pics, like they spent a whole $2 on it but only because someone in marketing said they had to in order to sell the player !
Post 4 made on Friday October 17, 2014 at 21:58
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The 810 is a turd!

It never garnered much of a following because, I don't know about you, but I have no desire to follow a POS.
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OP | Post 5 made on Friday October 17, 2014 at 22:43
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If I was doing this for a living, I can see where you wouldn't want to fuss with it.
For me, it worked out fine I have a fairly simple set-up & lots of time on my hands. The hardware has been flawless thru 6+ years of daily use, can't squalk about that. If only it could be converted to use the CC software - sigh ...............
Post 6 made on Saturday October 18, 2014 at 00:23
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On October 17, 2014 at 22:43, MikeD2 said...
If I was doing this for a living, I can see where you wouldn't want to fuss with it.
For me, it worked out fine I have a fairly simple set-up & lots of time on my hands. The hardware has been flawless thru 6+ years of daily use, can't squalk about that. If only it could be converted to use the CC software - sigh ...............

URC dropped the ball on this one, like everything else.

It's sad when they came out with a remote to compete with Harmony and actually made Harmony look good.
"Quality isn't expensive, it's Priceless!"
Post 7 made on Saturday October 18, 2014 at 01:13
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On October 18, 2014 at 00:23, kgossen said...
URC dropped the ball on this one, like everything else.

It's sad when they came out with a remote to compete with Harmony and actually made Harmony look good.

I think they made it better when it changed over to the MX-880. The integrator's, who primarily sell and program URC, hated the fixed programming format, and they voted as such with their purchases. It didn't take long before URC figured out the 810 was history...
Post 8 made on Saturday October 18, 2014 at 01:35
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On October 18, 2014 at 01:13, JoeFlabitz said...
I think they made it better when it changed over to the MX-880. The integrator's, who primarily sell and program URC, hated the fixed programming format, and they voted as such with their purchases. It didn't take long before URC figured out the 810 was history...

Comparing the 810 to the 880 is like comparing day to night.

The 880 was a CCP remote. The 810 was "supposed" to be the easy Harmony alternative. URC failed miserably. (like they most often due)

If I was offered an 810 or a Harmony, I'd choose the Harmony seeing it as the less of the two evils.
"Quality isn't expensive, it's Priceless!"
Post 9 made on Saturday October 18, 2014 at 09:06
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On October 18, 2014 at 01:35, kgossen said...

If I was offered an 810 or a Harmony, I'd choose the Harmony seeing it as the less of the two evils.

Both are the bane of existence to any programmer worth their salt.
It's hard to argue. however, that CEPro Top 100 dealers specify and install URC products 66% of the time, so they cannot be so evil.
OP | Post 10 made on Saturday October 18, 2014 at 11:57
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On October 18, 2014 at 01:35, kgossen said...

If I was offered an 810 or a Harmony, I'd choose the Harmony seeing it as the less of the two evils.

I had a Harmony and it was HORRIBLE !! The software was so kludgy it was unuasable, their servers went down on a whim, tech support was useless, sometimes it would connect to the remote other times it would "hang" and lose all your changes - baaa. Sent it packing back to the store before the 30 day return period was up & never looked back.

I got better results with the JP1 software & connector and the lowly Atlas 5 remote TWC supplied for free in 2 days than I did in 28 days with the Harmony junk.
Post 11 made on Saturday October 18, 2014 at 15:17
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On October 18, 2014 at 01:35, kgossen said...
Comparing the 810 to the 880 is like comparing day to night.

The 880 was a CCP remote. The 810 was "supposed" to be the easy Harmony alternative. URC failed miserably. (like they most often due)

If I was offered an 810 or a Harmony, I'd choose the Harmony seeing it as the less of the two evils.

You're really such a positive person. I don't know that I've ever really seen a positive comment from you. If you hate URC so much, just stay out of the URC section. Simple as that.
Post 12 made on Monday November 3, 2014 at 10:48
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I am not an installer, but I have owned both the 810 and 880.

As what I would call an "average" but techie user, I believe they are pretty much the same.

Yes the wizard style of the 810 software was confusing and not that user friendly, once you figured out the which goofy wizard did what it got the job done. I did have upload issues with my 810 so that was frustrating since it would take multiple upload attempts to "take".

The 880 was sort of the exact opposite. The software is a bit more technical but if I remember it also was goofy in that what you would think would be obvious actions/settings turned out to be not so obvious. So it also had usability issues as well, just a different kind.

This is coming from someone who configures and deploys software for a living. I know full well what a complex/pro UI should look like and how to operate. Just because it is pro doesn't mean it has to be confusing, and to be user friendly doesn't mean "wizard" either.

Honestly I absolutely LOVE the 8xx series. At least for me its the perfect balance of easy of use (just the right amount and kind of common buttons) and customization (the 6 custom buttons with icons near the top).

I really think the layout of the buttons is perfect for me, and haven't really seen a remote like it.

I setup a harmony for my in-laws... pretty easy but just the customizable screen isn't really that cusomizable since you can't move the custom buttons (just rename them).

To the OP... use the codes you can and just train anything missing.
Post 13 made on Monday November 3, 2014 at 19:11
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On November 3, 2014 at 10:48, dandirk said...
I am not an installer, but I have owned both the 810 and 880.

m).
To the OP... use the codes you can and just train anything missing.

Chooo-chooo!
Post 14 made on Tuesday November 4, 2014 at 00:14
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On November 3, 2014 at 19:11, JoeFlabitz said...
m).

Chooo-chooo!

The BDP-s300 are really the codes you want if you want the remote to use discretes. For some reason urc hasn't added these discretes to their db since the BDP-s350. All the other codes are the same except for the extra codes like Netflix and such which didn't exist when the s300 did.
0101001101111001011100110100100101101110011101000110010101100111011100100110000101110100011010010110111101101110


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