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Post 1 made on Monday July 21, 2014 at 03:28
Ernie Gilman
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If someone has used a document that I can get from the URC website, and has learned about variables from it, I'd appreciate knowing where it is. I found one that was confusing, only to find that it's written mostly for Total Control and I'm still doing Complete Control; I found another that seems to go from "you can make an if/then statement using variables" to "here's how to nest those statements," but I totally missed the part explaining how to do it in the first place.

As of Friday, the trainer was unavailable, which is why I'm asking the rest of you.  For what it's worth, I've done if/thens with variables in RTI setups.

Thanks in advance!
 
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Post 2 made on Monday July 21, 2014 at 11:51
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Open CCP
Click on Help tab
Click on Tech Guides
Open MX890 CCP Programming Manual
Go to page 12.

I know you're going to bitch about the location of that information, but there's your answer.
Post 3 made on Monday July 21, 2014 at 12:47
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On July 21, 2014 at 11:51, Lowhz said...
Open CCP
Click on Help tab
Click on Tech Guides
Open MX890 CCP Programming Manual
Go to page 12.

I know you're going to bitch about the location of that information, but there's your answer.

He won't bitch about the location, but the lack of easily searchable directions that lead you to that location.
OP | Post 4 made on Sunday July 27, 2014 at 02:13
Ernie Gilman
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Would you mind telling me how you happened to find it? Does "not easily searchable" mean "you have to already know where it is to find it"?

Why would you characterize complaining about it not being easily searchable as "bitching"? Aren't you trying to make money with this stuff? Doesn't URC want to sell product and have us program it? Isn't it sorta on them to make information that they know about available to us in an easy to find manner? Or are you at the point where anybody pointing out that anything is not as it should be is to be called "bitching"?
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Post 5 made on Sunday July 27, 2014 at 23:58
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On July 27, 2014 at 02:13, Ernie Gilman said...
Would you mind telling me how you happened to find it? Does "not easily searchable" mean "you have to already know where it is to find it"?

Why would you characterize complaining about it not being easily searchable as "bitching"? Aren't you trying to make money with this stuff? Doesn't URC want to sell product and have us program it? Isn't it sorta on them to make information that they know about available to us in an easy to find manner? Or are you at the point where anybody pointing out that anything is not as it should be is to be called "bitching"?

I RTFM. All of them. Because I make money with them.
Post 6 made on Monday July 28, 2014 at 14:49
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On July 27, 2014 at 02:13, Ernie Gilman said...
Would you mind telling me how you happened to find it? Does "not easily searchable" mean "you have to already know where it is to find it"?

Why would you characterize complaining about it not being easily searchable as "bitching"? Aren't you trying to make money with this stuff? Doesn't URC want to sell product and have us program it? Isn't it sorta on them to make information that they know about available to us in an easy to find manner? Or are you at the point where anybody pointing out that anything is not as it should be is to be called "bitching"?

Go to training Ernie. That's where the pros go to learn. I KNOW URC but still go from time to time. I know for a fact you do not go, and therefore are unsure of how to do what you are looking to do. URC offers FREE training to dealers, often through your local distributors. URC has a community of dealers on their own forum. URC does not throw all information out there for the masses. Failure to properly train yourself on a product that has easy to attend, free classes equals to nothing short of trunkslamming. Do yourself and your clients a favor, go to a training class and get a refresher or learn something new. If what you want is not covered, ask the trainer after the class. They are always, in my experience, willing to help. My 2 cents.

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OP | Post 7 made on Tuesday July 29, 2014 at 23:31
Ernie Gilman
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On July 28, 2014 at 14:49, goldenzrule said...
Go to training Ernie. That's where the pros go to learn. I KNOW URC but still go from time to time. I know for a fact you do not go,

How did you come upon this fact? Just wondering. If you were at the last training I was at, I don't know who you were. I do know that Braden was not very happy with some of the questions I was asking....

And so I wrote, on to the end. Sounded like you were being snarky for some reason and I went there too. Sorry.

The Dealer Site's Search Engine did not yield any helpful information on variables. After Braden told me that he had to handle something family-related, I quit asking him questions and came here... to get treated this way.

Sorry if I don't live up to your expectations.

I do have a question for URC, and I guess for you, too. If remotes other than the MX890 are capable of handling variables, then what has kept the URC crowd from putting those instructions into the other manuals? Did they suddenly forget Copy and Paste? Or, if many models can do this, how about a document that covers just this one topic? With its own appropriate name?

Last edited by Ernie Gilman on July 30, 2014 00:03.
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Post 8 made on Wednesday July 30, 2014 at 08:41
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On July 29, 2014 at 23:31, Ernie Gilman said...

I do have a question for URC, and I guess for you, too. If remotes other than the MX890 are capable of handling variables, then what has kept the URC crowd from putting those instructions into the other manuals? Did they suddenly forget Copy and Paste? Or, if many models can do this, how about a document that covers just this one topic? With its own appropriate name?

Very good point as they don't put programming manuals in the box with the remotes. They do have general discussions about variables in URC University, however they support a couple types of variables depending on the remote. I would contact [email protected] and see what they come back with...
Post 9 made on Wednesday July 30, 2014 at 21:05
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At this time the available information on IF/ELSE Statements is found in the Online Programming Guide:
[Link: urccontrolroom.com]

The "Variables" portion is not available and this is for Total Control.

I am not aware of any specific documentation that would be for Variable creation outside of the variables training in the URC University.

Variables within CCP have limited scope since the system can't share information and variables are all reset on every reset of the interface unlike in TC/ccGEN2.

If you want to see extensive use of variables in a CCP Program you can search "MX-5000 Advanced File" in the forums and it should come up with a remote that was programmed for a customer that uses pretty much the most advanced level of variable you can imagine to program the system efficiently.


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